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americandream
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:04 pm |
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Party that good huh? Dr. Ofellati wrote: americandream wrote: Sounds too much like, "I'm whooping it up at this party so don't go calling the noise warden". You have a heavy distortion around your outer ear - you use it to distort all sounds toward what you want to hear. I'm not enjoying the ongoing depression at all. I'm not enjoying the environmental fallout of human behavior at all . . . but I'm not going to sit around like a silly ninny and wring my hands and fret about it. If I can't change it, I mostly ignore it.
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:31 pm |
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The real extinction crisis is going to be humans, a few economic stimulus packages from now.
_________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions.
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Vogelzang
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:31 pm |
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pstarr
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:43 pm |
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Vogelzang wrote: The alledged 17,000 species are closely related to other species. Let's see, there's 2,000 species of frogs, there's 10,000 species of worms, there's 3,000 species of rats.... Why should I give a rat's ass? It's not the non-hispanic white man destroying the rain forests. Maybe we should invade South America and kill more brown skin people. If it wasn't for liberals, there wouldn't be so many people on earth right now. "so many people" suggests you accept in overshoot and die off. But you solution, racial holocaust is not acceptable. Do all Republicans think like this?
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Dr. Ofellati
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:01 pm |
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Vogelzang wrote: The alledged 17,000 species are closely related to other species. Let's see, there's 2,000 species of frogs, there's 10,000 species of worms, there's 3,000 species of rats.... Why should I give a rat's ass? It's not the non-hispanic white man destroying the rain forests. Maybe we should invade South America and kill more brown skin people. If it wasn't for liberals, there wouldn't be so many people on earth right now. Seems unlikely. It's the left wingers who are big on abortion, and they've self-limited their numbers pretty well.
_________________ Dr. O The Mos theorem - Those who do not reach my conclusions after having reviewed the evidence are either deniers, if they reject my conclusion, or conspiracy theorists, if I reject theirs.
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americandream
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:43 pm |
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I thought you had outgrown the left-right dichotomy. That you were a wise old man/woman who was above such trivial things! Dr. Ofellati wrote: Vogelzang wrote: The alledged 17,000 species are closely related to other species. Let's see, there's 2,000 species of frogs, there's 10,000 species of worms, there's 3,000 species of rats.... Why should I give a rat's ass? It's not the non-hispanic white man destroying the rain forests. Maybe we should invade South America and kill more brown skin people. If it wasn't for liberals, there wouldn't be so many people on earth right now. Seems unlikely. It's the left wingers who are big on abortion, and they've self-limited their numbers pretty well.
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:09 pm |
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Cid_Yama wrote: Although jellyfish are currently taking over the ocean, their demise is on the horizon. I can always count on you, Cid. There goes our last major source of protein from the oceans.
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Dr. Ofellati
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:44 am |
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americandream wrote: I thought you had outgrown the left-right dichotomy. That you were a wise old man/woman who was above such trivial things! : You can do better than that. Whether I've outgrown them or not is irrelevant to the truth of whether the right is bigger on guns and the left is bigger on gays.
_________________ Dr. O The Mos theorem - Those who do not reach my conclusions after having reviewed the evidence are either deniers, if they reject my conclusion, or conspiracy theorists, if I reject theirs.
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:52 am |
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O, you are, I presume, human.
As such, you are an active participant in the annihilation of species, particularly as, since you are using a computer, you are likely part of the high-consuming western culture.
To say that you don't worry about it is to say you don't care about the horrendous effects of your own actions as well as of your own species.
This attitude is generally considered a kind of pathology, as a doctor I'm sure you can determine which one.
Please let me know if I am making further unwarranted assumptions, perhaps my first?
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Dr. Ofellati
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:57 pm |
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dohboi wrote: O, you are, I presume, human. As such, you are an active participant in the annihilation of species, particularly as, since you are using a computer, you are likely part of the high-consuming western culture. To say that you don't worry about it is to say you don't care about the horrendous effects of your own actions as well as of your own species. You are quite right. What you are saying, in effect, is that, because I am being swept inland with the wave of the tsunami and I am not actively attempting to swim back toward the shore, I am annihilating species. Guilty as charged. I'll leave it to wispy framed elitist idealists to attempt to swim back to the ocean. To say "I don't worry" about it is to say that I can't turn the wave around, so I won't waste energy or emotion trying. Me living in a shack in the woods does . . . . . . . . . . . .nothing. Why do nothing? Me? I get my board out and ride the wave. "You take your car to work, I'll take my board." Am I to be blamed for the ridiculous behavior of the human herd? There are 100 people adrift at sea in a boat, with the hope of being rescued quite slim, and everybody is tearing into the 2 days of food we have, eating it as fast as they can, and your advice to me is to fast? Or is to feel guilty for eating? Finally, while I do love nature and I find it beautiful, I have no delusions about it. Nature is vicious. Nature is nothing more than a constant, ubiquitous struggle to murder your competitor and steal his resources. Oak trees, mice, fireflies, humans. We all do the same thing, and, if they had the ability there is not a single species on the planet that would not wipe out any other species if doing so was even slightly enuring. It's a paragon of stupidity to not understand that the monarch butterfly would kill us all, if it only could, if doing so caused more milkweed to grow.
_________________ Dr. O The Mos theorem - Those who do not reach my conclusions after having reviewed the evidence are either deniers, if they reject my conclusion, or conspiracy theorists, if I reject theirs.
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:17 pm |
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Wispy framed as compared to............grossly bloated? 
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Ludi
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:39 pm |
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Dr. Ofellati wrote: It's a paragon of stupidity to not understand that the monarch butterfly would kill us all, if it only could, if doing so caused more milkweed to grow. Projection much?
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americandream
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:28 pm |
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Its the height of stupidity to, on the one hand, concede nature's organic order whilst bemoaning a function of that order. Oilyfatty has a record of complaining at the "ascendency of the Jew and Zionist conspiracies". Wouldn't it thus be appropriate given your propensity to acknowledge the inevitable Mr Oily, to then concede that this is a case of natural selection at work and adopt a similar stance in this instance. One cannot be selective, natural selection is natural selection is natural selection. Or are we to take it that some instances of nature at work are superior to others. Ludi wrote: Dr. Ofellati wrote: It's a paragon of stupidity to not understand that the monarch butterfly would kill us all, if it only could, if doing so caused more milkweed to grow. Projection much?
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:28 pm |
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Every prey has a predator... since no other mammal can, we have each other to prey upon i.e warfare, hence the stupidity of those who do not understand why we *need* to be able to kill each other (duh!).
That or a virus like Ebola becoming as contagious as the flu...
Nature always keeps the balance my friends.
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americandream
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Post subject: Re: Extinction crisis continues apace Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:16 pm |
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I've no issue with that. Civil society is a work in progress. The elite are where they are for being more adept at camouflaging their activities. In time, we, the rest of us will have to take matters into our own hands as that camouflage falls away and our precarious survival is exposed for all to see. This is the basis of revolution. Adaptation to the new paradigm. Change is a function of life. neocone wrote: Every prey has a predator... since no other mammal can, we have each other to prey upon i.e warfare, hence the stupidity of those who do not understand why we *need* to be able to kill each other (duh!).
That or a virus like Ebola becoming as contagious as the flu...
Nature always keeps the balance my friends.
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