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Zardoz
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:08 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 6603 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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GoghGoner wrote: If it develops, I can say I posted first.
Cape Verde systems seldom turn into anything serious on this side of the Atlantic.
Not that it can't happen, but it's very rare.
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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frankthetank
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:45 pm |
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I say it stays south, cuts north of Cuba, south of Florida, turns some and hits along the Texas coast. Damage estimated in the 100's of billions.
I have no idea. I do think that its still too early to worry. If this was early August, then i might get wet.
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lawnchair
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:11 pm |
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More immediate than the Cape Verde storm, models are starting to pick up on a disturbance north of Barbados presently (invest 93).
If it picks up any steam at all before the bell for the three-day-weekend, well, it doesn't help, that's for sure....
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no_name
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:44 pm |
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If this thing holds up until the end of trading tomorrow and stays on this projected path going into a 3 day break its $150 oil
Projected path
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DantesPeak
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:30 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:00 am Posts: 6333 Location: New Jersey
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lawnchair wrote: More immediate than the Cape Verde storm, models are starting to pick up on a disturbance north of Barbados presently (invest 93). If it picks up any steam at all before the bell for the three-day-weekend, well, it doesn't help, that's for sure....
Weather underground doesn't see a signficant development for 93 in the next few days, but if develops more Friday, I understand electronic trading will continue on July 4 and Sunday evening.
Wather Underground projection
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GoghGoner
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:22 am |
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Zardoz wrote: GoghGoner wrote: If it develops, I can say I posted first. Cape Verde systems seldom turn into anything serious on this side of the Atlantic. Not that it can't happen, but it's very rare.
Although this system is scheduled as a TS later today, it is forecast to end up central Atlantic. Emily (2005) was the last Cape Verde in mid-July to end in the GOM. Dean, a Cape Verde, came through mid-to-late August last year.
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wisconsin_cur
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:13 am |
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AirlinePilot
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:45 am |
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The only thing that makes this storm very interesting is that it is developing where it is. Anything brewing up this early in the Hurricane season that far east is an anomaly.
You just dont see storms form east of 40 degrees this early and it could be a portending of an active season according to some of the gurus over at Eastern US Weather forums.
This one is going to be a "Fish" storm.
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GoghGoner
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:52 am |
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AirlinePilot wrote: The only thing that makes this storm very interesting is that it is developing where it is. Anything brewing up this early in the Hurricane season that far east is an anomaly. You just dont see storms form east of 40 degrees this early and it could be a portending of an active season according to some of the gurus over at Eastern US Weather forums. This one is going to be a "Fish" storm.
yes, quite unique this storm is.

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idomar
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:53 am |
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AirlinePilot wrote: This one is going to be a "Fish" storm.
a what?
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ROCKMAN
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:26 am |
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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 1202 Location: TEXAS
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For all the hurricane junkies (I know how it feels...grew up in S La.),
Even a small one like this newbie can shut down all offshore production. Right now most operaors are in a quick alert mode. Regardless of how small any storm entering maybe it will likely shut down all production for a few days even if there's no substantial damage. It takes a minimum of 36 hours to shut down most operations in the Gulf. And after that you still have 25,000 workers to evac on any given day. In other words, you have to start shuting down a good day before you really know where it's heading in the Gulf.
The Gulf supplies 18% of US oil production last I saw the number. Even if there's little damage, 4 or 5 storms rolling into the Gulf could lose us 10 to 20 million bbls of oil cumulatively. Normally that wouldn't cause much of a price spike but times are rather different now.
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AirlinePilot
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:38 pm |
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A "Fish" storm is one that just affects the fishies out to sea. Although Rockman is right also, there isnt any drilling in the Central or Western Atlantic that I know about.
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wisconsin_cur
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:17 am |
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AirlinePilot wrote: A "Fish" storm is one that just affects the fishies out to sea. Although Rockman is right also, there isnt any drilling in the Central or Western Atlantic that I know about.
While it is steering clear of the GOM and the oil platforms it does appear as if it might be a little more than a fish storm. I guess it is just a matter of how much it will strengthen. It looks like it will steer clear of the warmest water and then hit the east coast.

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Homesteader
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone Season Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:09 am |
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This is the latest from NOAA: Quote: "BERTHA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 21 MPH...33 KM/HR...AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. BERTHA WILL BE ABOUT HALF WAY BETWEEN THE WEST COAST OF AFRICA AND THE LESSER ANTILLES BY TONIGHT OR EARLY SUNDAY. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST TODAY ...BUT GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE ON SUNDAY. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM FROM THE CENTER. ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1000 MB...29.53 INCHES. REPEATING THE 1100 AM AST POSITION...16.6 N...37.3 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...WEST NEAR 21 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB."
Moving west. We may not have a miss on GOM yet.
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