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vision-master
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:45 am |
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After Surviving Storm, Fleeing a Fetid, Devastated Galveston
Quote: Ms. Thomas added: “Galveston has been hit hard. We have no power. We have no gas. We have no communications. We’re not sure when any of that will be up and running.”
The air was becoming foul-smelling and was swarming with mosquitoes. Sewage was beginning to back up onto waterlogged streets. The lack of running water was becoming a health hazard; without the water, people could not flush toilets or properly wash their hands.
Small packs of stray dogs roamed the streets. Helicopters buzzed overhead on search and rescue missions. Debris from ruined buildings lined the broad boulevard along the Gulf of Mexico. A line of about 60 cars snaked around piles of wood, slabs of concrete and fallen awnings, their drivers waiting for the Coast Guard to give out food, water and tarps.
Along the road to the island’s flooded west end, longhorn steers grazed in the median strip near scattered recreational boats and a shiny late-model Corvette with water inside. Refrigerators and trash bins lay in the front yards of several homes, and some of the area’s most expensive houses were reduced to rubble. Forty buildings in all had collapsed.
In Jamaica Beach, west of Galveston, six houses were destroyed and most of the others damaged, said a police official, Steve Hubbell. He warned residents that snakes were slithering through debris and that nails in roadways were flattening tires.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/2008 ... /809150311
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pup55
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:19 am |
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Quote: I will go anywhere but here,” Shannika Jones said as she stood at the shelter with her sons, both under age 2, in a line to board a bus. “My babies are getting sick.” Behind her were two rows of chairs filled with elderly people, some with open wounds.
“Next time they should warn people about this, not the storm itself,” Ms. Jones said.
This is classic. They put out a "mandatory evacuation" and Ms. Jones stays put. They put out a warning that says "anybody that stays faces certain death" and she stays put.
WTF?
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vision-master
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:24 am |
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Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 5783 Location: Out of this World
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pup55 wrote: Quote: I will go anywhere but here,” Shannika Jones said as she stood at the shelter with her sons, both under age 2, in a line to board a bus. “My babies are getting sick.” Behind her were two rows of chairs filled with elderly people, some with open wounds.
“Next time they should warn people about this, not the storm itself,” Ms. Jones said. This is classic. They put out a "mandatory evacuation" and Ms. Jones stays put. They put out a warning that says "anybody that stays faces certain death" and she stays put. WTF?
an no extra gas, food, water, power, lighting and so on...... 
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patience
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:28 pm |
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We had our own small hurricane in southern Indiana yesterday, but nobody noticed much. Louisville,Ky had 300,000+ without electricity, and over 200,000 in Indiana after 75-80 mph winds spent the afternoon knocking out power lines with fallen trees, removing roofs and tall business signs, and uprooting barns. Wind blew a semi truck over on its' side, damaging a bridge. The Census bureau where my wife works is shut down today, and schools in general in the area from here to Cinncinati.
Our power was only off about 20 hours, but it will take a week or more to get Louisville all going again. (The Ryder Cup golf tournament, however, is still going on.)
Weather people say it was an atmospheric inversion thing that brought what normally would be mile-high winds down to the surface. Our local town is about halfway powered up again, but it will take a while for the rest. The few operating gas stations have lines of customers, and at least one is sold out of regular and mid-grade. Gas went from $3.56 a couple days ago to $4.15 today, and station people say $4.50 in a day or so.
I don't think we ever had a hurricane in Indiana before....
_________________ Local fix-it guy..
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skiwi
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:04 pm |
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vision-master wrote:
Poor tree
A single home remains standing amid a scene of devastation in Gilchrist, Texas

_________________ Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked; to be remembered in the earth.
We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
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burtonridr
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:47 pm |
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its absolutely mind boggling to me, give the destruction of property and people who stayed behind, that there are only a handful of deaths. How lucky 
_________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
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idiom
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:48 pm |
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Quote: He also noted that phone repair crews from AT&T were sitting idled at the staging center because they had run out of fuel for their trucks.
Thousands of cars snaked their way toward a furniture store parking lot south of downtown, awaiting a share of 9 tons of ice and 50,000 gallons of bottled water that a radio station was giving away. Most in line waited nearly two hours, meaning they had to burn scarce gasoline to get scarce ice and water.
Was it reverse engineer muttering earlier about needing tanker convoys to get anywhere?
_________________ The world ends without a tragedy,Time is melting into history
The sky is falling, Voices crying out in desperation
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burtonridr
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:11 pm |
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idiom wrote: Quote: He also noted that phone repair crews from AT&T were sitting idled at the staging center because they had run out of fuel for their trucks.
Thousands of cars snaked their way toward a furniture store parking lot south of downtown, awaiting a share of 9 tons of ice and 50,000 gallons of bottled water that a radio station was giving away. Most in line waited nearly two hours, meaning they had to burn scarce gasoline to get scarce ice and water. Was it reverse engineer muttering earlier about needing tanker convoys to get anywhere?
Yea no kidding!
2007 population estimates 2,208,180 people
thats a lot of food and fuel to supply to a city.
_________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
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CarlinsDarlin
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:16 pm |
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burtonridr wrote: its absolutely mind boggling to me, give the destruction of property and people who stayed behind, that there are only a handful of deaths. How lucky 
Do you really believe that there were only a "handful" of deaths? The entire west end of Galveston Island is gone. Entire bayside communities are flat. Houstonians were told to hunker down. Many people stayed in other communities despite mandatory evacuations.... I find it hard to believe that only a handful of people died. I just think it's not being reported...
K
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ColossalContrarian
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:28 pm |
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CarlinsDarlin wrote: burtonridr wrote: its absolutely mind boggling to me, give the destruction of property and people who stayed behind, that there are only a handful of deaths. How lucky  Do you really believe that there were only a "handful" of deaths? The entire west end of Galveston Island is gone. Entire bayside communities are flat. Houstonians were told to hunker down. Many people stayed in other communities despite mandatory evacuations.... I find it hard to believe that only a handful of people died. I just think it's not being reported... K
Actually it is being reported and I would have to agree that it's remarkable the loss of life was so low.
Out of power and 'unsafe,' Galveston starts long clean-up
_________________ In space there is energy. Is it static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:25 pm |
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Some good news:

_________________ Joe P. United Political Debate
"Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted; only when the last fish is caught; only then will they realize that you cannot eat money." - Cree Indian Proverb
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Armageddon
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:28 pm |
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ColossalContrarian wrote: CarlinsDarlin wrote: burtonridr wrote: its absolutely mind boggling to me, give the destruction of property and people who stayed behind, that there are only a handful of deaths. How lucky  Do you really believe that there were only a "handful" of deaths? The entire west end of Galveston Island is gone. Entire bayside communities are flat. Houstonians were told to hunker down. Many people stayed in other communities despite mandatory evacuations.... I find it hard to believe that only a handful of people died. I just think it's not being reported... K Actually it is being reported and I would have to agree that it's remarkable the loss of life was so low. Out of power and 'unsafe,' Galveston starts long clean-up
I have heard they have most of the bad areas closed to the public and also helicopters. I wonder what they are hiding ? I have heard it is much worse than they are telling is, just like NO was.
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:53 pm |
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Quote: Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Texas refiners and Gulf of Mexico oil and gas producers may need two weeks to restore normal operations after Hurricane Ike swept through the region.
Exxon Mobil Corp., the world's biggest oil company, said its Beaumont, Texas, refinery took the ``most serious hit'' of its plants, from a wall of water pushed ashore by Ike. Royal Dutch Shell Plc restarted ``some production'' in the east of the Gulf of Mexico as a cold front hindered efforts to restore output at other facilities.
``You are looking at 10 to 14 days for most of the refineries'' in the Houston and Texas City areas, Andy Lipow, president of Houston-based Lipow Oil Associates LLC, said in a telephone interview. ``Power and people are the major stumbling blocks for refineries to return.''
Fourteen Texas and Louisiana refineries, with combined crude processing capacity of 3.72 million barrels a day, were closed because of Ike. The storm came ashore near Galveston Sept. 13, shutting about 20 percent of the U.S.'s oil-refining capacity.
``It's highly unlikely that we will see the bulk of these operations back to normal before a minimum of 10 days to two weeks,'' Tom Knight, trading director at Truman Arnold Cos., an independent wholesaler in Texarkana, Texas, said in an interview.
Refinery outages are expected to reduce supply and boost gasoline prices. Regular gasoline at the pump rose 4.8 percent to $3.842 a gallon on Sept. 14 from a week ago, AAA, the nation's biggest motoring club, said on its Web site.
``Over the next two weeks the national average could get as high as $3.90 to $3.95 and then come back off,'' said Lipow.
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:48 pm |
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idiom wrote: Quote: He also noted that phone repair crews from AT&T were sitting idled at the staging center because they had run out of fuel for their trucks.
Thousands of cars snaked their way toward a furniture store parking lot south of downtown, awaiting a share of 9 tons of ice and 50,000 gallons of bottled water that a radio station was giving away. Most in line waited nearly two hours, meaning they had to burn scarce gasoline to get scarce ice and water. Was it reverse engineer muttering earlier about needing tanker convoys to get anywhere?
There was a real tough call to make  Go LONG on predictions of DOOM from the King of Doom Calls.
Here is another one for you on the REAL Death Toll in Galveston and along the entire TX coastline.
Prior to Ike's Landfall, we were informed by the Gooberment that some 20,000 or so remained on the island "hunkering down". In the aftermath, the Gooberment proudly announced they had made daring rescues by sea and air of 2000 people they were shipping off the island. Can anybody here do subtraction? This leaves 18,000 people unaccounted for.
Now, we were also informed that although 1.2M chose to evacuate, approximately 140,000 were hunkering down. Given some neighborhoods there was only ONE house left standing, but figuring such neighborhoods only account for say 1/2 that and you estimate a 90% loss of life in those neighborhoods, you should come out with around 63,000 who are currently fish food.
Will we ever hear about this? It might take some time, but eventually relatives of the missing are going to wonder "Now why don't he write?" (Dances with Wolves) Somebody will start reporting on this eventually.
There is a lock down on the news. Like the Gulf War, the Gooberment is restricting access and censoring the reports. Eventually the truth will emerge however. So predicts Nostradamus RE
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Post subject: Re: 2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:06 pm |
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