2008 Hurricane / Typhoon / Cyclone Season (merged) Archived

ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

RSFB wrote:

It's starting to look like the "hunker down" gamble didn't play out too well.

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Officials with local utility companies warned residents that it may be as long as a month before power is restored across the Houston area and harder-hit communities to the south such as Galveston. Crews must hack their way through downed trees and flooded and debris-clogged roadways in their efforts to repair power lines.

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FEMA (...) assured residents today that the agency had 5 million liters of water and 5 million ready-to-eat meals stockpiled in Texas and ready to be distributed.

But he cautioned that deliveries were being delayed because flooding and debris-blocked roads were slowing down FEMA tractor-trailers.

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Many residents who evacuated before Ike made landfall early Saturday morning -- reportedly 1 million people along the Gulf Coast area -- have started to return to the Houston area, only to find they are unable to either reach their homes or fill their gas tanks. Some have run out of gas on the highways, or been stuck on side roads, as the day grows warmer and more humid.

Source

So it begins.

The cat won't stay in the bag forever.

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superpiper · **Joined:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 6

Fox reporting upto 10 Oil rigs Damaged or destroyed..

wisconsin_cur · **Joined:** Thu May 10, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 4616

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Sept. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil fell to a six-month low in New York and gasoline tumbled amid signs that refineries along the Gulf of Mexico coast will soon resume operations after escaping major damage from Hurricane Ike.

About 20 percent of the U.S.'s oil refining capacity was shut, limiting fuel deliveries and prompting the Department of Energy to release 309,000 barrels from its strategic reserves. New York Mercantile Exchange electronic trading opened early today to allow traders to respond to Ike.

``It looks like we've dodged another bullet,'' said Peter Beutel, president of energy consultant Cameron Hanover Inc. in New Canaan, Connecticut. ``The refineries in the Houston area seem to have come out of the storm remarkably intact.''

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To look forward and say, "this could be bad" = prudence

to look after the fact and pronounce the end of the world before the damage reports are in = faith-based doom

wisconsin_cur · **Joined:** Thu May 10, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 4616

superpiper wrote:

Fox reporting [s]upto[/s] only 10 Oil rigs Damaged or destroyed..

fixed it.

ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

wisconsin_cur wrote:

To look forward and say, "this could be bad" = prudence

to look after the fact and pronounce the end of the world before the damage reports are in = faith-based doom

I never said this was the End of the World.

I just said "This is VERY bad"

Its not faith based. Its statistics. The probability of this being VERY bad is VERY high. So I make a bet on it.

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GoghGoner · **Joined:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 656

wisconsin_cur wrote:

superpiper wrote:

Fox reporting [s]upto[/s] only 10 Oil rigs Damaged or destroyed..

fixed it.

Actually, the AP story I read said "at least 10." Also, they report off-shore rigs and platforms seem to have sustained much more damage than Gustav. 40 was the damage number from Gustav.

I agree with RE's assessment of the situation. Next weekend, you will agree, too. (Of course, I will shave my head if I am wrong)LINK

burtonridr · **Joined:** Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 761

Anyone know if Sargent green has heard from his buddy in Galveston?

I hope he was among the lucky survivors, luckily he was on the west side of the island, it didnt appear to be hit quit as hard as the east side.

TonisD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:27 pm

burtonridr wrote:

it didnt appear to be hit quit as hard as the east side.

Wrong. The West side took the beating.

ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

It's not a "non-event".

Houston Chronicle wrote:

Many of those who did make it to safety boarded buses without knowing where they were going or when they could return to what might remain of their homes.

Shelters across Texas scurried to find enough cots, and some evacuees arrived with little cash and no idea of what the coming days held.

Even for those who still have a home to go to, Ike's 110 mph winds and battering waves left thousands in coastal areas without electricity, gas and basic communications — and officials estimated it may not be restored for a month.

"We want our citizens to stay where they are," said a weary Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas. "Do not come back to Galveston. You cannot live here at this time."

The Human Tragedy is beginning to unfold. Like Katrina, your problem is a huge number of refugees who cannot return to their homes for at least the next month, if ever. The Gooberment is scrambling to find cots for them in Churches. Will they bring in Trailers for them soon?

Damaged or not, the Houston area refineries are not going to be operational too soon. Lack of power for one, lack of personnel for another.

For today, according to reports at least, the streets of Houston remain calm. For how long though? Lack of electricity, lack of sanitation, lack of basic services to many, and even the Gooberment acknowledges getting all the wire restrung to provide power will take a month (I'll bet longer than that).

Houston cannot remain viable as a city for that long without power. Its going to erupt. People who are still in the city have to GET OUT, and GET OUT NOW. But where will they GO?

We are sitting on a Powder Keg right now. Gas pumps are drying up all over the midwest and south. People in Nashville will not be able to get to work, children will not be able to get to school.

The financial markets are about to implode, but the society is about to EXPLODE. This is BAD. VERY BAD.

Sorry, I have to Push TSHTF Button

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ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

The ultimate in Gooberment Ineptitude. The very folks supposed to help save the Houstonians have THEMSELVES run out of food and water

kansas city star wrote:

HOUSTON | Hundreds of first responders at two staging areas in Texas for Hurricane Ike have run out of food and water.

U.S. Rep. John Culberson said Sunday that 300 National Guardsmen, state troopers and other emergency workers are going hungry at a high school football stadium — and at another staging area on Houston’s west side. Culberson blamed FEMA for the problem with supplies.

He called on area residents to take food and water to the crews at the stadium — despite official warnings for people to stay off Houston roads.

Full Story: http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/796880.html

I do find it interesting I have to dig down deep to a local newspaper report from a KC reporter to get some of the real story. Where is CNN and Anderson Cooper?

I do think tomorrow the coverup will start to unwind. With Houston still out of power, people will have to start leaving, decending on Dallas and San Antonio. I cannot see how the local stations and newspapers in these cities will not have to report on it.

This is a great test case for how tight a grip the Gooberment has on the Media. Can they spin down the Lehman Bankruptcy AND the Ike Fallout at the same time?

Where is Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, circa 1972? Where is the Ben Bradlee we need to publish? When is some newspaper going to have the GUTS to report something other than what they are being fed by Gooberment "officials"?

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ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

Chertoff is going to be hung out to dry.

New York Times wrote:

Shipments of food and water provided by the federal government were being transported to Reliant Stadium in Houston, but had not arrived as of late Sunday evening.

Michael Chertoff, the secretary of homeland security, said it remained unclear when the Federal Emergency Management Agency would be able to begin distributing the aid, in part because Washington had originally expected state and local officials to take care of handing out the food.

Asked if the change in plans had slowed the delivery, Mr. Chertoff said, “I don’t think it is a question of a significant delay.”

Full Story: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/us/15 ... ei=5087%0A

This is going to EXPLODE in the media tomorrow. The Cat is Out of the Bag.

Forget having 5 million MREs for the population, they can't even keep 300 State Troopers and National Guardsmen fed!

Its a Cluster F***.

The Lights are out in Houston for the forseeable future. Power to retart the refineries isn't coming online too soon, you betchya.

$18B of Damage? GIMMEEE A BREAK! Every day those refineries don't produce Gas probably costs a few million by itself (others here could be more accurate with that number), but down the line the lost business that depends on that gas multiplies it 100 fold.

Next Up: The Blame Game and Hanging out the Sacrificial Lamb.

Chertoff is going to lose his head. Bush will not take the blame of course.

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wisconsin_cur · **Joined:** Thu May 10, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 4616

GoghGoner wrote:

I agree with RE's assessment of the situation. Next weekend, you will agree, too. (Of course, I will shave my head if I am wrong)LINK

I will be happy to agree when there is evidence. I was merely noticing that 10 oil rigs is... irrelevant. Not every earth quake is the "big one" and not every fuzzy thing in the woods is big foot.

This could be, in RE's words, "very bad," the next earthquake could be the big one and there might be a bigfoot. I am not from Missouri but from close enough that I still say, "show me."

I would promise to shave my heard also but since I already shave my head 3-4 times a week that would be a little insincere

ReverseEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 3584

wisconsin_cur wrote:

This could be, in RE's words, "very bad," the next earthquake could be the big one and there might be a bigfoot. I am not from Missouri but from close enough that I still say, "show me."

I would promise to shave my heard also but since I already shave my head 3-4 times a week that would be a little insincere

Ammended today to "VERY VERY Bad." VERY high on the Bad Scale.

I'l keep my clipper at the ready to shave my head also here. At least if there is electrictity to run the clipper anyhow. I will NOT shave my head by hand. Too dangerous. :-)

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vision-master · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:16 am

Hot and Mad, Texas Awaits Federal Aid

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HOUSTON - The nation's fourth-largest city lay paralyzed, sweltering and almost completely blacked-out yesterday as frustrated residents waited in vain for promised federal disaster aid to be distributed more than 36 hours after Hurricane Ike tore through the region. Worried authorities extended a dusk-to-dawn curfew to prevent looting across the eerily darkened city.

As frustrated Houston residents began searching for scarce supplies of gasoline, food and clean water, Gov. Rick Perry and Mayor Bill White pointedly questioned whether the Federal Emergency Management Agency was devoting enough resources to deliver supplies to the region and help restore power to nearly 5 million area consumers.

Officials of the three private utility companies that supply electricity to the Houston metropolitan region said it could take them a month to restore power to everyone - a potentially debilitating delay to the area's economy, which supplies energy, aerospace and medical services to the nation.

He also noted that phone repair crews from AT&T were sitting idled at the staging center because they had run out of fuel for their trucks.

Thousands of cars snaked their way toward a furniture store parking lot south of downtown, awaiting a share of 9 tons of ice and 50,000 gallons of bottled water that a radio station was giving away. Most in line waited nearly two hours, meaning they had to burn scarce gasoline to get scarce ice and water.

http://www.millennium-ark.net/NEWS/08_U ... s.aid.html

wisconsin_cur · **Joined:** Thu May 10, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 4616

ReverseEngineer wrote:

wisconsin_cur wrote:

This could be, in RE's words, "very bad," the next earthquake could be the big one and there might be a bigfoot. I am not from Missouri but from close enough that I still say, "show me."

I would promise to shave my heard also but since I already shave my head 3-4 times a week that would be a little insincere

Ammended today to "VERY VERY Bad." VERY high on the Bad Scale.

I'l keep my clipper at the ready to shave my head also here. At least if there is electrictity to run the clipper anyhow. I will NOT shave my head by hand. Too dangerous. :-)

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Not dangerous at all... that is all propaganda spread by the electric clipper industry...

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