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We would need 1.7 Earths to make our consumption sustainable
President Trump has acted on his campaign promises to reverse Obama’s environmental policies and proposed a budget that would significantly slash the Environmental Protection Agency’s funding in an effort to take federal responsibility out of environmental regulations. More recently, White House officials have met to discuss whether the United States should leave the Paris climate agreement.
[Local programs get the biggest hit in proposed EPA budget]
The United States is one of the world’s biggest consumers, and U.S. policies can have global environmental effects. As of 2013, the world’s population would need 1.7 Earths to support its demands on renewable natural resources, according Global Footprint Network, a nonprofit organization that calculates human demands on the planet’s ecosystems.
ECOLOGICAL DEFICIT
ECOLOGICAL RESERVE
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Global hectares per capita in 2013
The Middle East, with low biocapacity to begin with, is experiencing a deficit.
South America and areas of Africa that are rich with forest land had the highest biocapacity per capita in 2013.
Global Footprint Network measures human consumption relative to what the planet can regenerate with a measure called the ecological footprint. The footprint takes into account how much in biological resources, such as fishing grounds and forest land, are necessary to fulfill the consumption of a country and absorb its waste. This includes imports and excludes exports. The smaller a country’s footprint is, the better.
A country also has a biocapacity — that is, the country’s capacity to renew the resources demanded from its ecosystems. Because this measure is based on technology and land-management practices, biocapacity may change from year to year. The bigger a country’s biocapacity is, the better.
Therefore, a country has an ecological deficit if its ecological footprint is greater than its biocapacity and ecological reserve if its biocapacity is greater.
[Scientists are looking at these indicators to measure climate change]
How we got here
Of the countries running the highest ecological deficits, the United States has one of the highest biocapacities. This means that even though the country has a lot of resources, its consumption is still highly unsustainable.
Canada
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South Korea
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Oman
Singapore
Belgium
Japan
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Oil and natural gas industries fueled a spike in economic growth in the 2000s in Trinidad and Tobago.
South Korea’s economy relied more heavily on manufacturing starting in the 1980s.
The ecological footprint of the U.S. has been decreasing since 2005.
Oman’s carbon footprint has increased dramatically since 1980 due to oil and natural gas activity.
Note: Only countries with a population of more than 1 million and data for more than one year are included.
Since 2005, however, the United States has been decreasing its ecological footprint. Its fossil fuel use is the largest component of the nation’s ecological footprint. In 2013, the country’s carbon footprint per capita reached its lowest since 1980. This may be the result, in part, of a smaller role that coal plays in the U.S. economy.
Ecological footprints by state in 2010
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Within the United States, Virginia has the biggest ecological footprint per capita, nearly twice that of New York.
According to a report from Global Footprint Network, this is partly because of the greater density of New York, which allows for more efficient use of infrastructure, such as public transportation. Virginia also has a larger housing and personal transportation footprint per capita.
Largest ecological reserves per capita in 2013
Central
African Republic
Brazil
Australia
Uruguay
Canada
Paraguay
Mongolia
Finland
Congo
Bolivia
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Pastureland in Mongolia has deteriorated over time due to droughts and climate change.
Deforestation in South American countries is rapidly depleting these areas of their biocapacity.
Note: Only countries with a population of more than 1 million and data for more than one year are included.
Of the countries with the largest ecological reserves, most have biocapacities that are declining at a sharp rate. In other words, they may run into ecological deficits soon if the trend continues. In some countries, this can be attributed to a combination of rapid population growth and deforestation.
20B global hectares
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The United States makes up 13 percent of the world’s total footprint and has the second-largest deficit in the world, trailing China’s deficit, which is driven by its accelerated growth. While the United States’ total footprint has been decreasing since 2005, it is still twice the size of India’s and far greater than that of other developed countries.
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Japan
South Korea
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Italy
Iran
Mexico
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China
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Note: Only countries with a population of more than 1 million and data for more than one year are included.
Which countries are developing sustainably?
Economic development often means using more resources and increasing carbon emissions. From 2000 to 2013, most countries increased their GDP and ecological footprints at the same time. However, there are 48 countries that managed to develop sustainably: They increased GDP while decreasing their ecological footprints, though most of these countries saw small economic growth.
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These countries grew their economies by a lot, but their ecological footprints increased by a lot as well.
Georgia
Vietnam
Armenia
Algeria
Lithuania
Turkmenistan
Cambodia
Myanmar
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Azerbaijan
Belarus
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Ireland
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Denmark
48 countries increased their GDP and decreased their ecological footprints from 2000 to 2013.
These countries grew their economies by a lot, but their ecological footprints decreased just a little.
These countries cut their ecological footprints the most, but did not grow their economies much.
Note: GDP per capita is in 2010 U.S. dollars.
For developing countries, an increase in ecological footprint may be necessary to bolster their economies. Footprints per capita in these countries may not be high to begin with, so small changes can cause a comparatively big jump. Sustainable technology may also not be as widely available in developing countries.
For developed countries, the opposite may be true: Because their rate of growth is decreasing and most already have large footprints, fluctuations might not be so obvious.
Though there are many solutions, the fastest way for a country to reduce its ecological footprint, according to Global Footprint Network, is to switch to greener energy sources. Even though the United States has been decreasing its ecological footprint, its consumption rate is still far from completely sustainable.
85 Comments on "We would need 1.7 Earths to make our consumption sustainable"
Davy on Sat, 6th May 2017 6:00 am
“Davy, sure, you’re right and everybody else is wrong. This in of itself should be instructive.”
Der hund, I could give a shit about the opposition having their panties in a wade over my positions. In fact it shows my points have traction and thereby are saying something important. The opposition knows who they are. The hypocrites complain about somethings I do as they do it or their buddies do it. Yea, that is OK because it is the “group”. A few years ago before your time I had 6 at once doing serious personal attacks because they did not like me. This lasted a week or so. I found it an honor to have so many assholes upset over me. I called them the gang. You guys lift nary a finger about makati, TWLB, any mouse and others. Those guys are cool in the group’s book. There OK right….I am all for changing the dynamics of this board with a moderator. That would stop the negativity here that you dumbasses engage in. I admit to it myself but I am not going to give it up to appease people I don’t agree with and are doing it also. You guys are a bunch of babies. Grow some will you.
Davy on Sat, 6th May 2017 6:08 am
“Davy, I believe the source of your anger is the inherent conflict that exists for someone who has been indoctrinated their entire life to be a loyal Republican”
Der hund, I find binary political people so boring and intellectually lazy. People that render down everything to democrat or republican is just binary bullshit. You don’t have a clue about my upbringing and need to worry about your own dumbass. I came from a family that was liberal in the 60’s then went conservative. I was from the get go different. I never fit in with the rich conservatives and hence why I am a permaculture goat farmer now. I am eclectic and variable not indoctrinated like you. I tend to be liberal now but not the fake lying liberals of today and what I see on this board generally. You know the self-righteous hypocrites who talk one thing but do another. Please stick your “false equivalency up your ass. Obviously I have made a point with you and hit the spot or you would just ignore me.
Davy on Sat, 6th May 2017 6:18 am
@GregT “Dumb and dumber.”
Greg, here is a good one on you. A few months ago you blistered plant because he made a comment about going to Egypt and walking around. The topic was about walking as important and green or something. It struck me that when you first came on this board you were checking in on us from your big trip to Hawaii. You even gave me the coordinates so I could see where you were on google earth. I am perplexed. You are the board climate change hawk. Why do you call plant a hypocrite about being in Egypt but you can travel to Hawaii. Why does a climate change hawk go to Hawaii but then complain about carbon. This is the stuff that stinks about you. You are a self-righteous hypocritical asshole Canadian that is dumb and dumber.
Kenz300 on Sat, 6th May 2017 11:05 am
Too many people create too much pollution and demand too many resources
China made great progress in moving its people out of poverty. One reason was slowing population growth.
If you can not provide for yourself you can not provide for a child.
CLIMATE CHANGE, declining fish stocks, droughts, floods, air water and land pollution, poverty, water and food shortages all stem from the worlds worst environmental problem OVER POPULATION.
Yet the world adds 80 million more mouths to feed, clothe, house and provide energy and water for every year… this is unsustainable… and is a big part of the Climate Change problem
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Hubert on Sat, 6th May 2017 2:20 pm
Odd to see Wash. Post reporting on Peakoil.
DerHundistlos on Sat, 6th May 2017 5:45 pm
Davy, posters on this site have every right to call you out on your inconsistencies.You claim to be a political maverick, yet you only attack one side. Your lengthy critique of others is what you have become. You don’t bother me in the least. Instead I find the bellicosity of your writings instructive of the American human condition. Finally, I am flattered to see that you have borrowed from my phraseology (ex. got your panties all in a wad).
Have a wonderful day.
Davy on Sat, 6th May 2017 6:49 pm
I have every right to call you and others out on your inconsistencies. I don’t claim to be anything political. You are doing the labeling “political maverick”. I have said this over and over I am a doomer. I don’t like lies and hypocrisy and that is what politics are today. Look der hund when I get critiqued I critique back. Got that? I don’t care if I bother you or make you joyful. Your bellicosity is no different than mine you just act like you are above it which is a typical of a liberal today. Fight bellicosity with bellicosity and act like it is their fault for the bellicosity. If you are flattered about a very common phraseology “panties in a wade” you are really hurting on your creative thinking. You got issues der hund or you would not keep coming back at me. If you could have a wonderful day maybe you would move on. I think you are basically an unhappy person and it shows in your writing.
Sissyfuss on Sat, 6th May 2017 9:27 pm
Davy, how can someone that loves Nature as much as Derhund does find much happiness in the grotesque extirpation and carnage of the modern world. It seems you would have a more kindred empathy towards him if politics did not enter the fray. I find you both enlightened and evolved beings but perhaps it is the times we live in that makes alliance so difficult.
Davy on Sun, 7th May 2017 5:21 am
Siss, der hund called me out in a gang bang. That put him toe to toe with me. I think you should let him fight his battles. I find him a fake green in a sense but admire his efforts at saving nature. He is making some real efforts. I am a fake green too. If I were really green I would not have a car, a/c, or ever fly. I would not even be on this stupid internet. I practice relative sacrifice but that is still not a real green. I admit I am a fake but der hund does not. His stupid self-righteous political obsessions get so tiring. Classify me as an asshole but leave out the libitard or conservatard.
I am sick of politics. Both parties are at the same game. They are elites playing off their sheeple following for selfish and sometimes psychopathic ends. I see little difference between either groups in the population. Both groups are not acknowledging a civilizational and planetary descent. Both groups think they have the answers to more affluence. Really both sides want more of the same pie that is shrinking. This is a fight over the crumbs but disguised with hypocritical ideology and morality.
The fake green want to do more of the same status quo with a deceptive green fantasy. The only real green is the poverty and humility of a bum or a monk. They instead want affluence and low carbon which is an incongruous juxtaposition. They want social justice but not in my back yard. They want immigration but with conditions of affluence without the sacrifice. Liberals want the same “moar” as conservatives but disguised with the irony of unachievable altruistic values. These values are hollow when the reality is everything is priced. Conservatives are simple they just deny science if it does not fit. Their idea of social justice is get rich then give a tax deductible donation. They feel their hard work of making money in a rigged system will trickle down to the poor. The conservative is smug in his nice home and gated community as his lifestyle slowly strangles innocent people he will never see except maybe a short charity commercial.
You see I despise all this and yes, I despise myself for when I partake in it or are forced into it. If I have ever liked Trump it is because this Trump process of absurdity has torn apart the facade exposing the hypocrisy and lies that inhabit our society and especially the government. This election was a special one for exposing the “social deadwood”. This comes on the heal of the huge letdown that was Obama. His original message of hope and change turned out to be a liberal fleecing. Nothing good will come of Trump except the process of exposing the dirty laundry on all sides through destructiveness. I have zero respect for government anymore except that I live under it. I avoid it whenever I can. Many liberal here think they don’t stink. There are no conservatives here of substance. So when I criticize a liberal here many have a hemorrhoid. I am a tree huger that spends his days out in nature. Yesterday I was trying to burn some native grasses but the wind was too high. I spent time out in the field waiting. This gives me time to see the nature. It was a glorious day. Do you think that was a Trump activity, no, yet I am considered a Trump supporter.
The problem with this board is it is extreme. You can’t be different because people here relate to and understand herd positions. My positions are all over the place but all come under the subject of doom. I never fit in well anywhere except with doom. This has made me one who contrast all positions. I have lived so many ways because I am a drifter and a lone wolf. I see the opposites because I am a doomer and society believes in growth, development, and a destiny of exceptionalism.
Der Hund criticized me. This is fine but he did it in a weak way piling on with others. He didn’t have enough with one hit and wanted more. If someone is going to attack me I attack back. A good offense is an excellent defense. Strategically sometimes defense alone is the best. Yielding is the best when superior forces are present. He drew first blood and I gave some back. For family or friends I add “turning the cheek” to the mix of offense, defense, and yielding. I have no family or friends here. I like some here but I am not here to be liked. I am here to be challenged and to learn. Where I get my ass kicked is with the truth. I think I know the truth but often instead deceive myself. If you guys hit me with the truth and I was wrong then that was a good result because I grow intellectually. Yes, it hurts to be wrong but if we do not experience humility we will always deceive ourselves. If you guys hit me because you don’t like me or the country I am from I will attack you with a vengeance.
I stay out of others fights except to highlight the hypocrisy of criticism of my attacks when others are doing the same thing. This board is a circle jerk gallery of pissed off old white guys who think they are special. I have not found a better place to come and water. When I do I will be gone. For some of the pussies here who like conformity and the comfort of social harmony my departure will be a good day. For others who are searching for something deeper they may miss some of my contributions.
GregT on Sun, 7th May 2017 11:26 am
“Siss, der hund called me out in a gang bang.”
There is no “gang” Davy, except for the imaginary one that exists in your mind. It might better serve your interests if you were honest with yourself. There are very good reasons why you are constantly battling nearly everyone else on this board.
Davy on Sun, 7th May 2017 12:33 pm
“There is no “gang” Davy”
You don’t remember You, Ape, Makati, and Juan P gang banging a while back. Just like you didn’t remember the Hawaii trip when you tongue lashed Plant for a trip to Egypt. Par for the course from the selective facts Greg T. Greg, you are THE WORST drama queen on this board. You initiate shit and keep it going the longest. I call that kind of person a prick.
GregT on Sun, 7th May 2017 12:58 pm
I remember the Hawaii trip very well Davy. We love the Big Island. I know, contradictory for an Anti-American like me. 🙂
The difference between Planter and myself, is that I didn’t come on the board here telling everyone how I was saving the environment by walking through downtown Kona. That would have been hypocritical.
Davy on Sun, 7th May 2017 1:39 pm
Sure you did, you just conveniently forgot what you said. The self-righteous holier than thou is still strong in you Greg. This is why you pick on people or should I say “prick” on people. It makes you feel justified. The ends justify the means for people like you.
GregT on Sun, 7th May 2017 4:02 pm
There you go again, putting words into my mouth, otherwise called lying. Is that the best you’ve got Davy?
DerHundistlos on Sun, 7th May 2017 4:11 pm
Thank you, Sissyfuss, for your voice of reason. Naturally, Davy, finds your comments to be a personal attack. Sad.
Davy, you have the temerity to call me a “fake green” when I have personally saved species from extinction. I have dedicated my personal resources to buying and preserving in perpetuity THOUSANDS OF HECTARES for Cloud and Lowland rainforest in Colombia (and, no, I am not a multi-millionaire, but I know how to negotiate a good deal for land). Or are you accusing me of a lie? I drive a 1992 Ford Taurus station wagon and I live in a home of less than 2.000 square feet.
So if I am a “fake green” what does that make you?
DerHundistlos on Sun, 7th May 2017 4:14 pm
“Greg is the worst.” Davy, give it a break. Your comments are bordering on the rantings of a crazy man.
Davy on Sun, 7th May 2017 5:14 pm
“Greg is the worst.” Davy, give it a break. Your comments are bordering on the rantings of a crazy man.”
Der Hund, why don’t you mind you own business Stormtrooper. This was Greg’s doing. He took first blood like your dumbass yesterday. I see you are back for more. Wasn’t yesterday enough? Are you a masochist?
GregT on Sun, 7th May 2017 6:19 pm
Giving everyone a good ass whooping again today Davy?
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Davy on Sun, 7th May 2017 6:35 pm
Give the drama a rest greg. Show some character instead of being a bore. Citing a lame psychological reference does not make you an expert. What it does indicate is you are flustered. Take a rest and regroup so maybe tomorrow you will be in better spirits. Today you did lousy and it showed.
Boat on Sun, 7th May 2017 11:19 pm
greggiet no drama? Lol Ain’t gonna happen Davy. I think he has a lot of hormone balancing issues. Hell his hormone issues have issues. He has developed a mak like world for himself that makes it ok to hate what he determines needs hating. But most of his Muslim brotherhood from Canida are like peas inna pod. It’s hard to differentiate most of the rhetoric. Anti America, pro Russia, anti Jew, pro right extreamism, anti women, anti consumerism, anti capitalism, anti FF, big user of energy and products. Big on blame yet mimic those they blame by life style. And the list goes on…………..
GregT on Mon, 8th May 2017 12:18 am
Again Boat, that’s quite the active little imagination you have there. If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with more of your usual nonsense.
makati1 on Mon, 8th May 2017 1:06 am
GregT, I think Boat and Davy are Siamese twins, joined at the head, each has access to half a brain. But then, what do I know. They can be entertaining at times. LOL
Cloggie on Mon, 8th May 2017 1:45 am
But most of his Muslim brotherhood from Canida are like peas inna pod. It’s hard to differentiate most of the rhetoric. Anti America, pro Russia, anti Jew, pro right extreamism, anti women, anti consumerism, anti capitalism, anti FF, big user of energy and products.
Not everything about Muslims is bad apparently… as long as you don’t let them in your country.
Last Friday I went to our local equivalent of Walmart to buy stuff to build a protection maze for my strawberries against birds. I parked my car next to a small old car that was parked with the nose in the opposite direction. So I was merely a meter away from the guy who was waiting in his car; he was a young Muslim and he provocatively began to stare at me. I stared back. There was hatred and contempt in this intruders eyes, who is living on my pocket and keen on taking over my country and impose Sharia. And I returned him the favor and would have loved to physically attack him. But I didn’t because in the current situation it would land me in jail, because this country is still owned by the despicable globalist vassals of the Americans, who conquered and destroyed us in 1945 and imposed this horrible civilization destroying multicult regime.
But not for long any more. Our own 1989 isn’t very far away.
Boat on Mon, 8th May 2017 2:12 am
Clog,
Don’t be blaming the US for your own immigration. Your EU countries have elections and set their own agendas. PS, the white young Dem’s people voted Bernie Sanders, kinda a thorn in the ointment for a right wing future. Who voted trump? Old white people, a dying demographic.
Boat on Mon, 8th May 2017 3:08 am
mak,
Doomerism is is just not in my DNA. No way will cities move to the country and have happy little communities with cooperating citizens. In fact the opposite is happening. Like you, humans end up in towers taking the taxie to shop. I have never voted for a Rep prez, unlike you and Davy, no way I could have ever supported Trump. Unlike you and Davy I see no crash for many decades. Me thinks you can’t remember my posts. Kinda like a goldfish, a mental reboot every few seconds. Lol
Cloggie on Mon, 8th May 2017 3:15 am
Don’t be blaming the US for your own immigration. Your EU countries have elections and set their own agendas.
Since 1945 western Europe is a colony of the US, so I can very well blame the US for imposing this multicult agenda.
PS, the white young Dem’s people voted Bernie Sanders, kinda a thorn in the ointment for a right wing future.
That’s because Americans have little ethnic pride (being the descendants of the underclasses of Europe aka “huddled masses”) and because you have few Muslims, who have an extremely archaic imperial agenda and who have great trouble to hide their intentions. In Europe, that has much more sense of ethnic and national identity, young people vote Wilders and le Pen because they know their future is at stake.
Americans, like the Soviets of former fame, tend to identify more with their collective, with which they can terrorize the rest of the planet.
But I wouldn’t put my hopes too high for your desired leftist future. In America there is a strong geographical divide between left (coasts) and right (heartland). Young people don’t pay taxes, the older ones do. And the rednecks from the Heartland have enough of paying ever more money for ever more invaders. They successfully revolted in November and that revolt won’t be undone, not without a fight. Kiss your globalist bully goodbye. Third world countries can’t be a super power and certainly not fractured third world countries.
And if America doesn’t revolt after Trump and remains in one piece, than Orwell will be right after all and this will be the new multi-polar world order:
https://s11.postimg.org/ntswa4atf/strange-maps-orwell-1984.jpg
(But I still think there is potential for a breakup of the US and that a considerable part of European America will manage to bring itself into safety and escape from “drowning in the third world”)
[part 1]
Cloggie on Mon, 8th May 2017 3:17 am
Europe is in the process of saying goodbye from US overlordship, greatly aided by Brexit and the Trump presidency:
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
‘US losing world leadership, Europe can replace it’ – EU top diplomat Mogherini
European Union foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, has criticized the “unpredictable” US foreign policy under Donald Trump, and says the EU can become the main international partner of Russia, India and China.
Eurasian Century is next.
The idea that 200 million European Americans can control 500 million Europeans ad infinitum is of course ridiculous, certainly if you add 200 million Slavs to the mix, eager to finally become European. We are not going to let ourselves remained colonized by a country with cities where the majority can’t read or write. And you are right, once we have separated ourselves from America we can only blame ourselves for mass migration. But I am telling you boat, the European sense of identity is too strong for the US backed multicultists to remain in power for too long and that the Right, like in the thirties, will gain the upper hand again in times of real crisis.
Life for the moment is still too good in Europe to take up arms against third worlders, who still aren’t taken serious enough, but the writing is on the wall. One third of the French and more than 50% of the young voted anti-third world.
Algerians have thrown out a million French colonizers in the sixties. The Indonesians have thrown out hundreds of thousands of Dutch after 1948. The Germans have thrown out millions of Jews from Europe. I leave it to you as an exercise to figure what is going to happen to the Euro-Muslims once the shtf.
And the Heartland will end up as a junior partner of Paris-Berlin-Moscow. If they are lucky enough.
[part 2]
Boat on Mon, 8th May 2017 4:03 am
Clog,
Most Americans think of Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, N Korea etc as countries they can side with if there was a large war but little else. Our issues are our own, your issues are your own. These allies do try to have a similar type rule of law at least on trade. The US would like all countries to do the same. You know, intellectual rights, If I sell cars oin your country you should be able to sell cars in mine etc Of course different systems make this difficult. The reason I think the EU will work through what ever problem is war and conflict is the fastest way to poverty quickly. WWII wasen’t that long ago. Your borders need to remain open because closed borders are inefficient and costly.
The US voted in Trump and we will see in the midterms if there is buyers remorse. It is early but Trump is struggling to say the least. Most of his problems are self inflicted. He is going to be around for a few years and I wish him success, however I am a skeptic and whatever right movement there was will be Trump road kill.
Boat on Mon, 8th May 2017 4:07 am
greggiet,
Gang was the wrong description. Cult like group think filled with conspiericy and wild ideology a more accurate description.
makati1 on Mon, 8th May 2017 4:11 am
Boat, when you post something memorable, I’ll remember. You are just in deep denial but call it anti-doomerism. Obvious to the rest of us outside your little world. Decades? Maybe sooner than you think. This year?
I agree that most Western/U$ cities are going to die a horrible, painful, slow death. Collapsing infrastructure. Failing finances. Huge debt. And a dumbed down bunch of under 30s who are clueless. I don’t even read these propaganda articles with hopey/feely/green endings. Especially the WaPo bullshit. Read first paragraph. Skipped to source. Quit reading the article to read the comments. Much more interesting.
I have not voted for 20 years. Waste of time. I voted Democrat until Clinton. (Bill) Don’t blame me for your situation.
BTW: Thank you for your tax contribution to Social Security. I have collected over 180,000.00 USDs so far. Closing fast on the amount I paid in over 50 years of working, plus interest @ 3% compounded annually. How much will YOU receive?
Davy on Mon, 8th May 2017 5:43 am
“GregT, I think Boat and Davy are Siamese twins”
yea it would not be a complete spectacle of assholes and hypocrites without makati chimiAmerocan hate and disconnect the sheeple anti-Americans love so much. The most vicious enemies are those who turn on their own kind.
Makati, you have been gone for a week. After 2 years did you finally get over to the fantasy acres and see how your $2/day labor is paying off. I can just see you inspecting the place strutting around like a wannabe estate owner when the reality is you are nothing more than a homeless immigrant who will never own property. You have no rights there and living off a social security stipend I am sure you have no savings for hard times. Sad story really when you could be a real man back home with your kids and grandkids. I guess you don’t give a shit about family though.
Davy on Mon, 8th May 2017 5:51 am
“Since 1945 western Europe is a colony of the US, so I can very well blame the US for imposing this multicult agenda.”
“this country is still owned by the despicable globalist vassals of the Americans, who conquered and destroyed us in 1945 and imposed this horrible civilization destroying multicult regime.”
Please, clog, spar me the pussy whining. You Euro pussies created your own mess. You deserve what you got. If you had a backbone the Americans would have been gone long ago. Instead you suck off the tit of the American security envelope and enjoy your club meds. You are a lazy and weak people that couldn’t fight a war if you had too that is why the Americans are there. We can actually fight.
“Eurasian Century is next.”
The next Eurasian century will be one of Europeans and Asians engaged in the worst kind of wars in overpopulation on a desolate climate destroyed landscape. If that is the Eurasian century you pussies are dreaming of you can have it. The worst is coming to Asia and you are next door. Good luck with that.
Cloggie on Mon, 8th May 2017 8:06 am
Please, clog, spar me the pussy whining.
Please spare me your self-serving “liberation” baloney.
If you had a backbone the Americans would have been gone long ago.
That’s easy for you to say; Europe is a conglomerate of now 30 smaller nations. It took time to grow political institutions that are strong enough so Europe can stand on its own feet. That moment is not far away (few years).
Instead you suck off the tit of the American security envelope and enjoy your club meds.
Security? Against who? In reality many US politicians would love to push us in a war with Russia. We need “US security” like a pain in the ass.
You are a lazy and weak people that couldn’t fight a war if you had too that is why the Americans are there.
Now there you open a can of worms. America ended up accidentally at global pole position because of the clash between the two real giants Germany and Soviet-Russia. There is no way that America could ever motivate itself to the level of suffering the Europeans went through in WW1, where millions were killed. Americans begin to cry if they have 40k losses, inflicted by some 2 bit third world country like North Vietnam… and lose. Don’t make yourself bigger than you are pall. You can’t even beat Afghanistan after 14 years of trying. We had the hole G* damn planet colonized, until you, Stalin and Churchill had decided that Europe had to go.
The next Eurasian century will be one of Europeans and Asians engaged in the worst kind of wars in overpopulation on a desolate climate destroyed landscape. If that is the Eurasian century you pussies are dreaming of you can have it.
I’m not “dreaming” or idealizing, just drawing the obvious conclusion of how 21st century geopolitics are going to look like.
If that is the Eurasian century you pussies are dreaming of you can have it.
Sure Batman, your empire won’t last another decade.
Davy on Mon, 8th May 2017 8:19 am
Cloggisms again, I am not claiming the empire will last a decade. Your words not mine. I am very sussinctly pointing out a Euro empire is a figment of your imagination. An Eurasian century is the wrong kind with the horrors of decline and decay in overpopulation. This is all coming to the US but we can be sure you are in line too.
Cloggie on Mon, 8th May 2017 8:55 am
I am very sussinctly pointing out a Euro empire is a figment of your imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvbS09gN80
Interview beginning of June, 2014, president Vladimir Putin had with French media representatives on the eve of the D-Day commemorations in Normandy, France. At 16:39 Putin says:
Francois Mitterrand spoke of a European confederation with Russia as a member. I think this opportunity still exists. We will have it in the future.
I think I have solid references. That’s no guarantee it is going to happen. But Putin is no fool and geopolitics is not rocket science; in fact it is playing chess with merely four pieces (US, EU, Russia and China).
I think it is the most logical outcome and a direct consequence of the meteoric rise of China, that will drive Russia and Europe into each others arms after the end of the US empire.