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Coal mining must continue, no matter what the human costs

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This post was inspired by a recent article about coal mining in India by David Rose in the Guardian about coal mining. In India, people are dying in the streets because of excessive heat caused by global warming, but Rose reports that “across a broad range of Delhi politicians and policymakers there is near unanimity. There is, they say, simply no possibility that at this stage in its development India will agree to any form of emissions cap, let alone a cut.” In other words, coal mining must continue in the name of economic growth, no matter what the human costs.I think it is hard to see a more evident example of the senility of the world’s elites. It is, unfortunately, not something that pertains only to India. Elites all over the world seem to be nearly totally blind to the desperate situation in which we all are.

On this matter, I have a post written on my “Chimeras” blog that describes how the blindness of the elites is not just typical of our times, but was the same at the time of the Roman Empire. It is a discussion of how one of the members of the Roman elite, Rutilius Namatianus, completely misunderstood the situation of the last years of the Empire. It is our plea of human being that we don’t understand collapse, not even when we live it.

   The return home of Rutilius Namatianus 

The 5th century saw the last gasps of the Western Roman Empire. Of those troubled times, we have only a few documents and images. Above, we can see one of the few surviving portraits of someone who lived in those times; Emperor Honorius, ruler of what was left of the Western Roman Empire from 395 to 423. His expression seems to be one of surprise, as if startled at seeing the disasters taking place during his reign.
At some moment during the first decades of the 5th century C.E., probably in 416, Rutilius Namatianus, a Roman patrician, left Rome – by then a shadow of its former glory –  to take refuge in his possessions in Southern France. He left to us a report of his travel titled “De Reditu suo“, meaning “of his return” that we can still read today, almost complete.Fifteen centuries after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, we have in this document a precious source of information about a world that was ceasing to exist and that left so little to us. It is a report that can only make us wonder at how could it be that Namatianus got everything so badly wrong about what was happening to him and to the Roman Empire.

Continue reading on “Chimeras”

Cassandra’s legacy by Ugo Bardi 



22 Comments on "Coal mining must continue, no matter what the human costs"

  1. Apneaman on Sun, 31st May 2015 3:44 pm 

    Human security at risk as depletion of soil accelerates, scientists warn

    http://phys.org/news/2015-05-human-depletion-soil-scientists.html?utm_content=bufferccdc9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  2. Newfie on Sun, 31st May 2015 4:04 pm 

    Humans have the attention span of hummingbirds.

  3. Apneaman on Sun, 31st May 2015 4:11 pm 

    California Senate candidate: “We’re all going to die”

    http://grist.org/politics/california-senate-candidate-were-all-going-to-die/?utm_source=syndication&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=feed

  4. Adamc18 on Sun, 31st May 2015 4:31 pm 

    Is the author of this (left wing) ‘Guardian’ article the same David Rose who has until now been well-known for his misleading anti-climate science articles in the (right wing) ”Mail on Sunday’?

    if so, does this article mean that he now accepts the reality of climate science or is he saying that it is hopeless to even try to do anything about it?

    Interesting!

  5. Perk Earl on Sun, 31st May 2015 4:46 pm 

    “In other words, coal mining must continue in the name of economic growth, no matter what the human costs.”

    That’s humankind in a nutshell. Too busy getting ahead ‘now’ instead of concern for the ‘future’.

  6. GregT on Sun, 31st May 2015 5:05 pm 

    “Coal mining must continue, no matter what the human costs”

    Should read;

    Economic growth must continue, even if it kills us all.

  7. redpill on Sun, 31st May 2015 7:02 pm 

    “There is, they say, simply no possibility that at this stage in its development India will agree to any form of emissions cap, let alone a cut.”

    Well, emissions are one thing, but I wonder what mercury levels are like and what they’re projected to look like. It’s one thing to shrug off asthma, but drain bamage is a whole different kettle of toxic fish.

  8. Makati1 on Sun, 31st May 2015 7:09 pm 

    redpill, the human species will not last long enough for the defects to become noticeable, except to a few. They have been building up for generations in the form of cancers and neurological diseases. We accept them just like we accept the ~100 that are killed daily on US roads or the ~80 that are murdered daily in the US. Background noise.

    Of course we will continue to use coal. Perhaps we will go back to steam locomotives eventually. Nothing is going to change until the system collapses totally and we have to start from scratch. IF we survive…

  9. redpill on Sun, 31st May 2015 7:14 pm 

    Mercury Emissions: The Global Context
    http://www2.epa.gov/international-cooperation/mercury-emissions-global-context

    Man, look at that emissions map! Eastern China isn’t looking too pretty, but the entirety of India is covered with the shit.

  10. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 1:00 am 

    Human costs? We have an abundance of humans and everyone only cares about their own. The Economic costs will break civilization. Broken infrastructure, loss of productivity, social unrest and war – very expensive.

    Texas floods and commodities: Farms face ‘total loss for year’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102717709

  11. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:08 am 

    Will El Nino Break the California Drought? The Odds Are Not Good

    http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2015/05/31/will-el-nino-break-the-california-drought-the-odds-are-not-good/

  12. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:09 am 

    Alaska’s Spring Is Becoming More Like California’s Summer
    Climate change’s new normal is causing record-breaking heat and wildfire risk.

    http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/05/29/alaska-spring-temperatures-hotter-climate-change?cmpid=ait-fb

  13. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:10 am 

    North American Moose dying in droves as climate warming fuels disease, pests

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/north-american-moose-dying-droves-climate-warming-fuels-disease-pests-1500437

  14. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:14 am 

    India to open 60 new coal mines

    http://www.worldcoal.com/mining/28052015/India-open-new-coal-mines-2339/

  15. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:21 am 

    India douses century-old coal fires as PM Narendra Modi seeks output boost

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-douses-century-old-coal-fires-as-PM-Narendra-Modi-seeks-output-boost/articleshow/47490559.cms

  16. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:26 am 

    India heat wave: Death toll passes 2,200, rain brings little relief
    Temperatures hovered between 45 and 47 C in some areas over the weekend

    ‘We can’t bear this heat. The situation is worsened by frequent power outages.’
    — Rekha Tiwari, a housewife in Lucknow

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-heat-wave-death-toll-passes-2-200-rain-brings-little-relief-1.3094551

  17. Kenz300 on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 7:10 am 

    Climate Change is real… we can deal with the cause or we will deal with the impact.

    Pope Francis’s edict on climate change will anger deniers and US churches | World news | The Guardian

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/pope-francis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing

    ———————–

    Head Of The Episcopal Church Says It’s ‘Sinful’ To Ignore Climate Change

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/26/katherine-jefferts-schori-climate-change_n_6949532.html?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=Green

  18. GregT on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 9:54 am 

    “Climate Change is real… we can deal with the cause or we will deal with the impact.”

    In other words; We have a choice between killing ourselves off, or waiting for Mother Nature to do it for us.

    Which do YOU choose Kenz.

  19. Jerry McManus on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 11:31 am 

    From the linked article on Namatianus:

    “The Romans never really understood what was happening to their Empire, except in terms of military setbacks that they always saw as temporary.

    They always seemed to think that these setbacks could be redressed by increasing the size of the army and building more fortifications.

    And they got caught in a deadly spiral in which the more resources they spent in armies and fortifications, the poorer the Empire became”

    Absolutely effing brilliant. A more concise explanation of our predicament could not be imagined.

    Replace “armies and fortifications” with “growth and technology” and you have a near perfect encapsulation of just how and why the next few decades are going to get really ugly.

  20. Apneaman on Mon, 1st Jun 2015 2:53 pm 

    Heat Wave

    Body count was at 2200 last check, but it will be higher as many deaths will be misattributed because heatstroke can kill you up to a year after the fact. Lots of medical expenses and other economic losses as well. 17 million chickens for one.

    Heatwave kills millions of chickens, prices soar

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Heatwave-kills-millions-of-chickens-prices-soar/articleshow/47505757.cms

    Classic heat stroke during Chicago 1995 heat wave

    “In addition to the pre-hospital deaths, nearly half of the patients admitted to Chicago-area ICUs for heat stroke died within a year–21 percent before discharge and another 28 percent after release from the hospital. Many of the survivors suffered permanent loss of independent function; one-third had severe functional impairment at discharge, and none of them had improved after one year.”

    http://www.uchospitals.edu/news/1998/19980801-heatstroke-aim.html

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