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It’s Not Nice to Fool Mother Nature

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About 40 years ago (are we dating ourselves here?) there was a margarine commercial on TV with the tag line, “It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.”

As it turns out, Mother Nature was not amused at being tricked into thinking some chemically manufactured concoction was “her delicious, sweet creamy butter.” And that’s when she turned all dark and scary with lightning bolts. Of course, this was before scientists discovered the health dangers of unnatural trans-fats. So it really was as frightening as all that.

This was also before we had the sophisticated computer models we have now, and before most scientists recognized the threat of global warming induced climate change. This is now incontrovertible scientific fact, to all but those determined to drown in their own ignorance. And that’s what’s really scary now.

An overwhelming majority of scientists agree — global warming is happening and human activity is the primary cause. Yet several prominent global warming skeptic organizations are actively working to sow doubt about the facts of global warming.

These organizations play a key role in the fossil fuel industry’s “disinformation playbook,” a strategy designed to confuse the public about global warming and delay action on climate change. Why? Because the fossil fuel industry wants to sell more coal, oil, and gas — even though the science clearly shows that the resulting carbon emissions threaten our planet. Here is a list of those global warming skeptic organizations.

The planet is not amused by the fact that humans have already dug up, pumped out, and fracked about 50% (known as peak oil) of every atom of carbon sequestered underground over hundreds of millions of years, and thrown that back up into the atmosphere as the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide. Levels of carbon dioxide are currently sky rocketing so fast on a geological scale they are literally off the chart. That is the hockey stick – so named because the graph looks like a hockey stick laying on its back  with the ”toe” pointing upwards to rising temperature. 

But the planet will do what planets always do, obey the forces of physics that Newton and Einstein revealed to humanity. There is no practical upper limit on how bad it could get incompatible with human infrastructure as we know it. There are winds on planet Saturn over 1,000 miles an hour. On Earth’s sister planet Venus the atmosphere is more than 96% carbon dioxide producing a greenhouse effect creating an average temperature of 863 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to melt lead, hotter than would be anticipated just by the fact that it’s a bit closer to the Sun than Earth.

Here on earth today, a temperature anomaly of just a 1.8 degree increase in ocean water temperature has intensified two monstrously destructive category 4-5 hurricanes in a row, with a third, Jose, itself already up to category 4 and ready to hit next, though the U.S. mainland may be spared this one.

We can no longer plead ignorance as a defense. We are fooling with forces of nature that have an inexorable momentum of their own and cannot be subsequently controlled without confronting the root problem – us.

The real scientists, not the few unqualified jerks on social media still shooting their mouths off, are telling us that it is imperative that we find a way to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere to a maximum of 350 parts per million. And if we do not, it’s just going to get worse and worse and worse until critical parts of our human infrastructure, mostly on our coasts, are essentially
wiped off the face of the earth with Hawaii and low lying pacific islands losing ground literally.

We are fooling with Mother Nature at our existential peril. It’s not going to be nice or pretty. And if you don’t like it, move to Saturn or Venus. This is not a liberal vs. conservative issue it is an issue of science.

The Merchants of Doubt explains “how a handful of scientists obscured the truth on issues from tobacco smoke to global warming “. Employed or funded by the fossil fuel companies or partisan think tanks; using the same strategy used in the past by the tobacco companies to cast doubt on the scientific conclusions extending their profits at the cost of human lives and the health of our only home.

Come on Republicans what will it take before your party get it? Seriously, does every “red” state have to be literally under water before you finally admit that the climate change crisis is real?

Consider the fact that the US Navy is supremely interested in rising seas from global warming – they need harbors for god’s sake. Forbes Magazine asks “Does Our Military Know Something We Don’t About Global Warming? Every branch of the United States Military is worried about climate change. They have been since well before it became controversial.”

Ignore the danger and we will have to endure the wrath of Mother Nature. She doesn’t like to be fooled.

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47 Comments on "It’s Not Nice to Fool Mother Nature"

  1. baha on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:32 am 

    The republicans are the champions of business and the free market. The democrats are the champions of the little people.

    Who is the champion of Mother Nature?

    We need to get our priorities straight.

  2. Davy on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:38 am 

    Bull shit. Dems are the same as Repugs these day. The whole establishment is warped especially the lying liberals today who are “politically correct incorrects” meaning they say one thing in public and another behind closed doors. The republicans are just openly bad. The dems have all those fake greens who believe in science until the solutions disagree with their plans then they wrap science to fit their sentiments. The republicans just deny science. Don’t blow political smoke up my ass. Its ALL bad!

  3. onlooker on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:52 am 

    Yes, I totally agree with Davy here. The whole economic/political system is dysfunctional. Because at a profound level who we are really trying to fool is ourselves. We are good at that you know. And because of that we did not change course. So, now it is too late, we are in the age of consequences

  4. pointer on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 9:15 am 

    baba, Davy is right — Dems and Repugs are very much the same these days. The Dems have not been the party of the “little people”, as you say, since the late 1960’s. For the better part of five decades, Dems have been the party of the yuppie. It is amazing that hardly anyone ever sees this, and continues to believe the “Dems are for the little people” myth. Just follow the money — who finances the campaigns of most Dems? For instance, consider the Clintons and Obama. BTW, Obama, whatever happened to that “hope and change”?

    As for science/Mother Nature, who among the Dems stands out for their vocal leadership? Who is really putting their career on the line for what is — as Floridians and the Caribbean neighbors learned — the greatest existential threat facing the human species?

  5. Duncan Idaho on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 9:41 am 

    The Dims and Repugs (or any reformist politics) are not going to turn this industrial civilization around.
    The Titanic has left port.

  6. Sissyfuss on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 10:00 am 

    The Green Party should be the ones to lead us but from my investigations of their platform, they appear as feckless and confused as the Demitasse Party.

  7. Ghung on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 11:02 am 

    Any party or movement that doesn’t claim Americans and the West can have their cake and eat it too won’t get much of a following. That’s why we’re screwed in the (not too) long run.

  8. dave thompson on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 11:15 am 

    The Dems and Repubs are the twin ass cheeks of multinational corporations and banking cartels that own the entire system. None of us are invited, unless you want to go into debt peonage, prison, a life of poverty or corporate/state run murder for hire, by the military industrial complex. If you try to change or protest the system you will be killed.

  9. dave thompson on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 11:16 am 

    OH, by the way have a nice day suckers.

  10. Apneaman on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 11:23 am 

    pointer, if you think the consequences of AGW are ‘the greatest existential threat facing the human species’ then how can you claim there is no difference in the US political parties when Trump & his cancer crew recklessly trashed the handful of protections Obama and those before him put in place to protect citizens from those inevitable consequences?

    6 Obama climate policies that Trump orders change

    “Climate Action Plan

    This 2013 plan rolled out by President Barack Obama focused on three areas: cutting carbon pollution in America, preparing infrastructure for the impact of climate change and making the United States a global leader on efforts to combat climate change.”

    “Executive order on climate change

    Obama instructed the federal government to prepare for the impact of climate change in a 2013 executive order.

    It created a Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience, charged with overseeing such a national effort.”

    Executive Order — Preparing the United States for the Impacts of Climate Change

    Trump Rescinded Obama’s Flood Safety Regulations Weeks Before Hurricane Harvey

    Sure the system is on it’s last legs and the politicians and managers are corrupted, but there are still differences. It’s also true that while Obama was doing his few meaningful climate related deals he was simultaneously a BFF to US cancer extraction and a establishment puppet (who isn’t), but he did put some protective measures in place which have and are being trashed for politics and greed. So would you rather live in a country that is not going to reduce emissions, but still makes an effort to protect you & yours, or would you rather live in a country that is not going to reduce emissions and kill existing protections and ignore the predicament entirely? Try as you and Davy might, painting everyone with the same brush don’t cut it. It’s not a black or white world. Shades of gray. I see a difference, because I do think that protecting citizens from ‘the greatest existential threat facing the human species’ does matter. There are many other issues, but none of them will matter if AGW kills you & your kids and wipes out your unprepared and unprotected country as fast as fast can.

  11. Revi on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 1:28 pm 

    I have decided that people who are aware of the problem and are still flying around the world for fun are worse than deniers. They know what’s going on, but do less than nothing. I know some people who claim to be “environmentalists” who flew up to see the polar bears, who are being killed by climate change. They had to see them before it was “too late”. You can’t make this stuff up!

  12. Davy on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 3:12 pm 

    Exactly revi, these are the fake greens who talk about the science but deny the awful science of the solutions. Almost all wealthy green people are fake and many deep in denial and hypocrisy. I am fake and trying hard to be less fake. If you fly, drive, and use A/C you are fake. Get the drift?

    Personally I think it is over as in we are in a new climate paradigm. Systematically we are not going to turn a civilization away from bad behavior. Even if we could runaway change is likely baked in.

    My biggest problem with fake greens is when they whine about science deniers when they deny the science of the solutions. There are solutions but not fixes and the remedy may kill as many as it saves.

    Techno optimism is a personality disorder. When a society is mostly techno optimistic it is basically dysfunctional long term. In the short term wind and solar driven society sounds like a sweet melody but the reality is it is noise. It is noise because it is a flawed proposition driven by fake greens many with alterior motives.

  13. penury on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 4:41 pm 

    Blaming the Dims or Repugs is to ignore facts. Politicians are elected by “voters”, voters in their infinite wisdom will vote for people who promise them the best of all possible worlds. If any politician tries to campaign on the truth, they will be as electable as I am.

  14. onlooker on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 5:03 pm 

    Face it most of us are short sighted, selfish and addicted to feeling good. The politicians play to that. It is a vicious cycle. I do not see us being able to stop said cycle

  15. DerHundistlos on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 5:36 pm 

    False equivalency, Davy, between the Dems and Cons. You cling to this meme to justify your support of Republicans. Only one of the two parties is working to sell-off America’s parks to the highest bidder. Only one party is working to repeal the highly successful Endangered Species Act. Only one party has successfully defunded the EPA.

    As you say, don’t blow smoke up our ass.

  16. DerHundistlos on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 5:39 pm 

    How many Republicans do you know how donate funding or time to environmental causes? I have yet to meet one Republican.

    You name call these good people because they choose to engage in ecotourism. I engage in ecotourism to see the results of my efforts to preserve wildplaces. You are sick and fucked up.

  17. Boat on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:05 pm 


    Many red states lead the US in wind and solar. These greener technologies have less pollution but let’s face it. A footprint that is not good for nature is required. Hydropower wiped out many millions acres the world but is still recognized as the greenest way to produce power.

  18. Davy on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:16 pm 

    “False equivalency, Davy, between the Dems and Cons. You cling to this meme to justify your support of Republicans. “

    Flushed a covey…lol. You are a lost cause der hund. You can’t argue with denial.

  19. Davy on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:18 pm 

    “You name call these good people because they choose to engage in ecotourism. I engage in ecotourism to see the results of my efforts to preserve wild places. You are sick and fucked up.”

    You are a fake green asswipe flying down to Columbia to save nature as you kill it on your journey there. If you cared about nature you would hang around your homestead instead of jet setting around calling yourself green and compassionate when you are just a rich elite pig. Who is sick and fucked up?

  20. makati1 on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:38 pm 

    Derhund, Boat and Davy are in the “We are Delusional” club. They do not live in the same world as the rest of us. You are correct in your observation about “two parties” and Republicons. For both of them (Boat & Davy) it is ALL about $$$$.

    I think they enjoy bating anyone who disagrees with their narrow vision just so they can use putdowns and name calling so they can feel superior. Another sign of their immaturity and need to be correct ALL the time. Mental sickness is more and more evident.

  21. Davy on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:43 pm 

    “Mental sickness is more and more evident.”
    Makat, my mental sickness is seeing you puke your daily hate. This board would be respectable if you were gone as it is now it is continuously warped. BTW, when are you moving to those 4 acres in the jungle where you are going to live off the fat of the land? None too soon for board sanity.

  22. Boat on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 6:55 pm 


    Of course it’s about money but more importantly how it’s spent. For example coal in Texas used to be the dominant energy. Now new energy production goes to nat gas and renewables because they are cheaper to produce. Why do you hate cleaner and cheaper?

  23. makati1 on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 7:24 pm 

    Boat, fuck Texas. It got what it deserved and the hurricane season is not over. You live in a techie dream world that will never materialize. The whole US economy is over the cliff and falling and the ‘YUGE’ SPLAT is coming. THAT will be the end of the US as a 1st or even 2nd world country. Be patient.

  24. makati1 on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 7:41 pm 

    “Testing Reveals Floodwater In Houston Homes Contain Toxins”

    Not all dangers are visible. Nor are all ‘damages’ obvious.

  25. Boat on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 8:56 pm 


    Thanks for reporting the obvious. Your hate of anyone in the world going through a natural disaster just speaks to your racism and lack of character. The last few years have shown your no economist. Why do you keep predicting events that never happen.

  26. makati1 on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 9:08 pm 

    Boat, you have exhibited your lack of understanding and knowledge on so many things here, how do you expect anyone to take your comments seriously? You are blind to reality outside your little Texas world.

    The US collapse is in progress. You just refuse to see or accept it. It does not happen all at once but the signs are all around you. Someday you will wake up to a totally different world than you expected. Much much different. Be patient.

  27. Boat on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 9:54 pm 


    I am patient, it’s been many years of patience. In fact I will be here in another year, still being accused of not being patient. lol

  28. Apneaman on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 10:18 pm 

    Boat, I’m patient too. Actually a mental patient on insane asylum earth. He he he he ha ha ha ha drool grunt groan…….

    I asked Nurse Ratched when I’m getting out? She said only when you die. Then I get to spend the rest of eternity in Doomer heaven.

    Medication time, medication time.

  29. DerHundistlos on Tue, 12th Sep 2017 11:36 pm 


    Yes, I now see your point quite clearly. The root of their problem is cognitive dissonance.

    Davy, is always looking for the cheap shot. Little does he understand the process involved in buying and preserving habitat. This is not a process that can be accomplished by telephone. I have personally been responsible for preserving in perpetuity about 20.000 acres of Cloud and Lowland rainforest. The land that I have saved more than offsets my plane ride. If he wants to play this game, then he should walk to Wal Mart instead of driving a gus guzzling pick-up truck. This is the absurdity of his position.

  30. makati1 on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 12:30 am 

    Derhund, I applaud your active part in saving what you can. All I can do is set aside a few hectares around a reliable spring with a lot of cover for them and plant trees and shrubs for food and shelter.

    As for your flights, he has no idea how little fuel it takes to fly in a commercial jet. I used to fly to my home in the US annually. About 25,000 miles round trip. According to the web, a 747 uses ~5 gallons to the mile to haul ~400 passengers, luggage and freight. That averages about 300 gallons per person. When I lived in the US and went to work, That was about 4 months gasoline. So, I can fly and still save 2/3 of my total fuel use. I have stopped my US trips so I am down to fumes.

    Davy cannot look in the mirror. He only sees others and points fingers. I am glad he is not a neighbor or relative. LOL

  31. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 12:44 am 

    What Will Happen To Indian Subcontinent’s ~2 Billion People As Temperatures Soar?

    “n some of the hotter parts of the region, the day when it’s not possible to remain where one is without dying of heat stroke or dehydration probably isn’t that far off. The hottest parts of Pakistan, for instance — where temperatures of +125° Fahrenheit are already not that uncommon — would probably qualify on that count.”

    “Looking at the way that people deal with one another in even the best of times — and also looking at recent history of the last few hundred years or so of ethnic and religious violence (usually driven by resource constraints) in Asia, Europe, and Africa — the reality of these looming mass migrations doesn’t bode well.

    It seems, in other words, that a global scale “repeat” of the Völkerwanderung of the late Roman Empire — which saw Germanic and Slavic peoples swarm into Europe and displace and/or kill off the “Europeans” of the time — is now gearing up.

    Or perhaps it’ll be a situation like the one that accompanied the Late Bronze Age Collapse — which saw Celtic and other (mostly) “Indo-European” peoples mass migrate into Europe from Anatolia, the Near East, and elsewhere, and then swamp out and/or kill off many of the peoples living there at the time. Who can say at this point?

    One thing that can probably can be said for sure, though, is that politicians and those in positions of power won’t likely speak honestly about the causes of the massive problems that they will be facing. Not publicly anyways.

    Because doing so would mean telling people the one thing that they probably don’t want to hear more than anything else: The way of living that we’ve been pursuing over the last few hundred years has trashed the planet and the blowback has only now just begun. Or: Everything needs to change, cause the party’s over.”

    Hey Deepak, I hear there is plenty of room up in Holland. Bring the whole family – clog has a spare room. They even have internet there, so you can still do your customer service job helping dumb white folks hook up their cable box and router.

  32. Davy on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 6:35 am 

    “Davy, is always looking for the cheap shot.”
    Aaah, who is taking the cheap shots and first blood? Who said this that started it:
    “You are sick and fucked up.”

    “Little does he understand the process involved in buying and preserving habitat.”
    Dumbass, I know what you are doing. Do you think it is rocket science? Please child, you are nothing special. Your self-aggrandizement does remind me of makat. Something about you lonely old men that are nearing death you have a way of trying to feel self-worth in a grandiosity in your twilight years. I guess the thought of that nothingness of death haunts you. Just because you are wealthy and elite you think you can buy your stairway to a green karma. If I had millions to dump maybe I would do the same but I would move there. I am doing my effort here locally on my family farm. In total it is 500 acres. I am making a difference locally not flying off to exotic places. I believe in localism as a personal solution. Move the frig down there “Oh green Special One” or would that be too far from the Democratic fundraisers and back scratching. You are doing something admirable in relation to being fake green. You are not real green. You epitomize fake green with a green righteousness and the reason the world is falling apart. Saying one thing and doing another. Admit your green sins.

    “If he wants to play this game, then he should walk to Wal Mart instead of driving a gus guzzling pick-up truck. This is the absurdity of his position.”
    Another dumbass, reread my comment. Did you see I said I am also fake green but want to be greener? I am trying hard at it. I admit I am not fully green. If I go to town it is when I have an organized supply run. Usually on Thursdays when I also visit my Korean restaurant. Several things are purchased at one time. I rarely ever go to Walmart. Dog food is really cheap there and that is one of the few things I buy there. I can’t stand being in the place. I admit I am fake green. I know what real green is. You are a lying liberal extremist that is probably a member of antifa claiming a greenwashed sanctity. You talk so highly of yourself and your fossil fuel drenched trips to Columbia. What an asswipe hypocrite.

  33. Davy on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 7:02 am 

    “As for your flights, he has no idea how little fuel it takes to fly in a commercial jet.”
    makat, so 300 gallons is insignificant not to mention what 300 gallon carbon equivalent does by directly putting pollutants in the high atmosphere.

    “All I can do is set aside a few hectares around a reliable spring with a lot of cover for them and plant trees and shrubs for food and shelter.”
    You are not doing anything makat. You have been 10 years in your Makati, Manila condo wasting air and filling the sewer with your effluent. You have been to your fantasy farm a handful of times in 10 years and you are bragging about being green. LMFAO

  34. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 8:21 pm 

    Winnipeg enjoys record-breaking September warmth

    “Winnipeg was one of several Manitoba communities to reach record temperatures on Tuesday.”

  35. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 8:23 pm 

    Map: where Western wildfires have made the air outside too dangerous to breathe

    Particulates from smoke have drastically impacted air quality in areas of several states.

  36. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 8:26 pm 

    On The Road To Extinction, Maybe It’s Not All About Us

    The devastating consequences of human superiority over nature.

  37. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 9:07 pm 

    3 cheers for the Deniers for killing off grandma. Another proud moment in Denier history and some more notches on their gun belt.

    Eight Dead From Sweltering Nursing Home as Florida Struggles After Irma

    “Florida was still staggering to its feet on Wednesday, and millions of people across the Southeast were facing days or weeks without power in temperatures that, in the Fort Lauderdale area, climbed to as high as 92 degrees in recent days.”

    Real quick like, that gun belt gonna be all notched up.

  38. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 9:13 pm 

    clog, enjoy your global greening loser.

    The great nutrient collapse

    The atmosphere is literally changing the food we eat, for the worse. And almost nobody is paying attention.

    “The junk-food effect he had learned about in that Arizona lab also appeared to be occurring in fields and forests around the world. “Every leaf and every grass blade on earth makes more and more sugars as CO2 levels keep rising,” Loladze said. “We are witnessing the greatest injection of carbohydrates into the biosphere in human history―[an] injection that dilutes other nutrients in our food supply.”

    “Rising CO2 revs up photosynthesis, the process that helps plants transform sunlight to food. This makes plants grow, but it also leads to them pack in more carbohydrates like glucose at the expense of other nutrients that we depend on, like protein, iron and zinc.”

  39. makati1 on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 11:13 pm 

    Ap, the next few weeks are going to prove your point. It ain’t over yet. Many more ‘notches’ coming.

    The soils in America are dead. The vitamins and minerals are very depleted or gone totally. The food may look good but so does the wax fruit we place in bowls for show.

  40. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 11:23 pm 

    As Florida recovers from Irma, Jacksonville has historic flooding — and might get more

  41. Apneaman on Wed, 13th Sep 2017 11:29 pm 

    U.S. flood insurance program sees $11 billion payments for Texas flooding

    Won’t be too long until the EROEI of techno industrial civilization gets so low that no one will bother anymore.

  42. JuanP on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 3:49 am 

    Florida is recovering fast. Irma won’t do us in. The hurricane season still has two and a half months left in it, though. I am still dealing with boat problems, broken windows, flooded homes, and the damage done to the gardens and farms I grow food in. Yesterday I spent most of the day dealing with boat issues and the rest fixing and cleaning a community garden, including chopping a huge mango tree that fell. Today I will be replanting, watering, and staking as many fruit trees as I can save at the farming coop and another community garden. Also, I still have one more flooded condo unit with a broken window. Hopefully, i will be done with all this shit and back to normal in two more weeks. I definitely hope so. I have to reassemble the 30′ by 60′ hoop house nursery this wekend. I will be starting my seedlings two to three weeks late. My direct seeding will go according to my planned schedule. I will be planting a two crop succession on some beds instead of the three planned. I will also be growing less slow crops like carrots, peppers, and tomatoes. I hope to make the same amount of money at the farm, though, by planting higher value crops with shorter days to maturity, particularly baby salad greens like mustard, arugula and lettuce. This will mean more work, though. Life’s a beach!

  43. george on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 4:16 am 

    to the autbor of this garbage i say horse balls

  44. makati1 on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 6:07 am 

    If you are interested in weather, you might want to watch this three part documentary:

    BBC Wild Weather with Richard Hammond Episode 1: Wind The Invisible Force

    BBC Wild Weather with Richard Hammond Episode 2: Water The Shape Shifter

    BBC Wild Weather with Richard Hammond Episode 3 Temperature The Driving Force

  45. Sissyfuss on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 9:40 am 

    Juan, was there much salt water contamination in your area? And how long does a garden area have to be submerged before real damage is done?

  46. Dredd on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 2:33 pm 

    “It’s Not Nice to Fool Mother Nature”

    It is not nice to commit omnicide either.

    Nice is irrelevant.

    Focus on commit.

  47. makati1 on Thu, 14th Sep 2017 7:03 pm 

    “Florida Farmers Say Irma’s Damage Is The Worst They’ve Ever Seen”

    US food “security”? LMAO

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