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Beyond Hope: Letting Go Of A World In Collapse

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Reposted from Deb Ozarko.Com

 

“Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth, for being correct, for being you. Never apologize for being correct, or for being years ahead of your time. If you’re right and you know it, speak your mind. Speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.”

Gandhi

For the next 3 weeks, I will post a chapter from my new book release, Beyond Hope: Letting Go of a World in Collapse to give you a taste of what lives inside. This week, I offer you the powerful Introduction.

If you dare, read on.

***********

This book began as something very different than what you now hold in your hands. Originally conceived as a testament to the “beautiful new world” my heart still believed was possible, the working title for this masterpiece was, Revolution 3.0.

Revolution 3.0 would be the ultimate transformation in consciousness that inspired the reclamation of wholeness leading us back to the very essence of who we are: the interconnected, non-separate Soul.

It would be a heart-driven revolution that roused the collective from the coma of disconnect that has destroyed all that is sacred in our world. Revolution 3.0 would inspire an epic awakening, activating what deep ecologist, Joanna Macy calls, “The Great Turning”: a life-sustaining, Soul-inspired, utopian Earth that made manifest the words of John Lennon’s beautiful song, “Imagine.”

I duped myself.

In the last few years, it’s become increasingly clear that the beautiful world of my imagination has always been nothing more than an elusive dream. With a collective of 7.6 billion (as of this writing) and growing exponentially, each child birthed to this world is enslaved by the cultural conditioning of those who preceded them. Because of a rigid allegiance to the story driving the endless perpetuation of this cultural programming, there is no way out. Every human bred to this world is born into an industrialized civilization that conditions them to be separate, and to therefore negate life through the commoditization and consumption of animals, Earth and the Soul. There is no way to stop an epidemic of madness when the global mind has so willingly embraced it.

The rapid acceleration of violent events around the globe: the uprising of religious fundamentalism, xenophobia, homophobia, speciesism, misogyny, societal breakdown, mass animal die-offs, the unparalleled disintegration of the cryosphere, and the rapid decay of our very biosphere; it all weighs heavy on my mind and heart. There is no denying that we are living through what scientists are calling, the 6th Great Extinction Event. These are indeed unprecedented times.

For the past few years, persistent premonitions of total ocean collapse have haunted me. These portents consistently present with two words: “It’s over.” The result is a dramatic about-face for
this book.

We are living in a time of planetary hospice.

Regarding the message I’m now implored from within to share, I was recently criticized by someone who said to me, “that is some heavy stuff.” I believe it’s only “heavy” when denial is the primary modus operandi in life.

What’s heavy is the voracious consumption of trillions of sentient land and aquatic beings for their flesh, maternal and menstrual secretions—every single year.

What’s heavy is the persistent technological distraction that rules, and ruins our lives.

What’s heavy is the frivolous obsession with narcissistic celebrity culture and blatant indifference about the plight of the planet.

What’s heavy is the economic stratification of society into rich
and poor.

What’s heavy are wars against terror, wars against drugs, wars against cancer, wars against animals, wars against each other, and the war against Earth and Soul.

What’s heavy is rampant overpopulation, starvation, poverty, homelessness, mass shootings, racism, xenophobia, transphobia, homophobia, speciesism, and generalized hate.

What’s heavy is the widespread epidemic of depression, obesity, fear, anxiety, addiction, stress, and mental illness.

What’s heavy is the uprising of sexism, misogyny, objectification, rape, and violence toward all that is feminine.

What’s heavy is fracking, oil spills, plasticized oceans, overfishing, aquatic dead zones, mountain-top removal, tar sands, mining, smog-filled air, clearcut forests, wetland development, nuclear waste, polluted rivers, lakes, streams, and oceans: ecocide.

What’s heavy is the numbing of our capacity to care because of our addictions to alcohol, pharmaceuticals, reality tv, pornography, gambling, social media, shopping, and conspicuous consumption.

What’s heavy is the meltdown of the Arctic, raging floods, wildfires, droughts, superstorms, hurricanes, rain bombs, algae blooms, Medicanes, earthquakes, bomb cyclones, and our wholly fucked-up Earth climate.

What’s heavy is the vortex of space garbage spinning around Earth, and continent-sized garbage patches choking the seas.

What’s heavy is the arrogance that prevents us from owning our role in this mission of ruthless omnicide.

We’ve created it. We’ve ignored it. We’ve denied it. Earth is writhing in pain, and she’s fed up. We are now experiencing the dramatic repercussions and getting precisely the cultural, civilizational, and ecological breakdowns we’ve created. The laws of the universe are inexorable. For every action, there is a reaction.

Action: Rape of Earth. Reaction: Runaway biosphere decay.

For every cause, there is an effect.

Cause: Human separation. Effect: Extinction of life.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place.

Karma’s a bitch. We are so fucked.

Separating from, and destroying an intricate web of life while denying the dire reality of our collective choices is what’s really, really heavy.

There is no more “don’t worry, be happy, everything will be ok” world anymore.

It’s over.

There is no Revolution 3.0. There never was. There never could be.

The words that follow speak to painful truths. At times, they are outright scathing.

I make no apologies for the disillusionment, betrayal, and disgust I feel for my species. I also make no excuses for giving a damn, and for loving life as much as I do.

The bottom line is that I don’t write for comfort. I don’t write to make friends. I don’t write to preserve the status quo.

I write to rattle cages until the locks fall off. I write to demolish old paradigms. I write to give voice to the voiceless: animals, Earth, and the Soul. I write to make hearts bleed with grief, and heal from Self reclamation. I write to shock, anger, irritate, and destroy the ignorance of antiquated belief systems. I write to bring light to the critical conversations that are swept under the rug and spotlight the cracks in our consciousness that have separated us from life.

I write to puncture the bloated, arrogant, profoundly conditioned ego.

Michael Beckwith once said, “A bad day for the ego is a good day for the Soul.” If my words irritate, ruffle, anger, and get under your skin, I’ve touched your Soul.

I write from the heart for the heart.

I am the irritating pattern interrupt that rattles your core and reminds you of the sacredness of life.

The words that follow channel my inner Kali: goddess of death, destroyer of the illusion of the separate self, and best friend to the Soul. To embrace the energies of Kali is to embrace the destruction of human conditioning for an expansion in consciousness. That is Kali’s ultimate intention. Kali the destroyer demands our attention so that—whether we like it or not—we are transformed.

And so the words that follow are meant to provoke, agitate and shake the very foundation of cultural programming that holds the Soul hostage. I write without apology for the courageous few who are willing to claim their most profound truth by remembering who and what they are, even in—especially in—a world that is falling apart.

The words that follow shine a spotlight on the collective shadow, so it no longer lurks in the moldy, dank darkness of the heavily programmed human mind. This is not a book about saving, fixing or changing the world. It’s much too late for that. This is a book about radical personal evolution for the sake of Earth and the Soul—right now.

This book speaks unsparingly to painful truths. It’s written for those who are no longer willing to deny what they already know in their hearts: that we have reached the end of the line. It’s a book written for the warriors of truth who are ready to reclaim the Soul, let go of our broken world, and put love and compassion into action for no other reason than because that is the deepest truth of who they are.

When I write about the dire predicament we are now living in; I use the language of “our” and “we” throughout this book. I realize the implications of these sweeping generalizations. Because of our collective enslavement into a lifeless civilization that has negated the Soul, however, we are in this together. Like it or not, we are all plugged-in to a collective consciousness that is hell-bent on ruin. And so, fire and flood, drought and deluge, displacement and death, are the extreme natural responses to the extremely unnatural conditions we have created.

At a time when there was not the scientific, technological or cultural separation from the Soul we now know, came prophecies of war, social unrest, cultural collapse, and ecological devastation. Every spiritual tradition spoke of the dire times we now find ourselves living in. By opening the lens of our awareness, this truth becomes clear, and we can no longer rationalize the irrational, or deny the undeniable. It is upon us now.

I realize that warnings of “collapse,” “end times,” “apocalypse,” and the “end of civilization” are often viewed as fringe, “doomer” or alarmist, but I also believe that on some level, we are all feeling it. To the naked eye, things may still look relatively “normal” as business-as-usual plods along, but lurking below the surface, many of us know something very different.

The Greek definition of apocalypse is “revelation,” or “a lifting of the veil.” As the truth of our Soul separation becomes more apparent with widespread breakdown, a collective uprising of resistance, fear, violence, and denial accompanies this revelation. Those who stand the most to lose in our harsh world are growing increasingly oppressive with their military-like rule. Cultivating a stable inner sanctuary is of great importance in these unprecedented times. The Soul is—and always has been—the only source of peace and power, regardless of how desperate things may become.

For the few who understand this on a visceral level, they will also recognize the urgency for their accelerated evolution. This urgency prompts an awakening to the only thing that can liberate the Soul from the confines of our conditioned humanity: acceptance.

This is not a book about science, history or philosophy. It’s a book about letting go. Letting go of the need to define an outcome. Letting go of the fear of uncertainty. Letting go of false hope for an illusory future. Letting go of the dream for a collective awakening. Letting go of the stories of what may or may not be. Letting go of what once defined meaning. Letting go of the fear of mortality. Letting go of what we’ve been conditioned to believe ourselves to be. Letting go of our broken, dysfunctional world.

In most books that expose the horrors of our world, there is often a final chapter that states, “if we can collectively pull ourselves together and do “Y,” we can save ourselves from ourselves, and “X” will not happen.” But words drenched in hopium succeed in only lulling us back to sleep. The implication is that somebody, somewhere, is somehow dealing with this monstrous mess and we need only make a few small adjustments in our personal lives to save our sinking ship. And of course, the worst stuff will never happen in our lifetime.

The reality is that time has run out. We are well past global warming, climate change and even anthropogenic climate disruption. We are in an irreversible state of runaway biosphere decay with no way back to what once was. And so I write this book with no hope-filled final chapter to lull anyone back to sleep. There is no to-do list filled with quick steps, painless fixes, and simple solutions. There is no strategic plan to perpetuate the belief in a happy ending anymore. The line in the sand has been drawn.

It’s over.

This is a book written for those who are no longer willing to deny the reality of our broken, dying world. It’s a book of painful truths. It’s the book I’ve been hungering to read my entire life. A book free of lies, magical thinking, denial, and hopium. It is a book I could never find because I was meant to write it.

This book is not for the faint of heart. It highlights everything wrong with the culturally conditioned human, and how by separating ourselves from the natural world and the Soul, we have become our own executioners.

My purpose with this book is not to convince you of the apocalyptic times we are now living in, or of the biosphere collapse currently underway, or of what you already know inside yourself. The fact that this book is in your hands is indicative of a truth that already lives within. My purpose for this book is to highlight the inauthenticity of who and what we’ve allowed ourselves to become so that in these final times, we can awaken to, and embrace all of who and what we’ve always been meant to be. At the very least, let’s make our final ride enlightening, compassionate, and caring. Let’s at least become as a result of what now is.

In the end, my hope for those who heed these words is not to soften the blow by couching it in passive language, but to inspire presence, passion, and compassion, for no other reason than because that is the calling of the Soul—the most profound truth of what we are. Ultimately, my greatest desire for this book is to break the cycle of samsara once and for all so that we never incarnate among such lunacy again.

NOTE: When I reference “the Soul,” I refer to the energetic, non-physical whole of what we are as life-force expressing through matter in a physical world. The Soul knows no separation: from animals, birds, fish, plants, trees, races, ages, genders, etc.

If you have the courage to read more, you can buy the book on Amazon now

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30 Comments on "Beyond Hope: Letting Go Of A World In Collapse"

  1. Bloomer on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 12:21 am 

    The scientifical community had alerted us decades ago about climate change. Special issue drowned out their message. Using the same public relations campaigns tactics the tobacco industry did in the 60s and 70s.

    The masses bought into the climate hoax theory because it was much more convient then facing the truth. We elected politicians who led us down the road of free market capitalism. The promise was that if each one of us looked after our own self interest,we all would rise up together.

    Solving huge global problems requires compromise, cooperation and consensus. It requires that we set aside our own self interest for the greater good. The inability of the global community to do so is why I have lost hope. I do not however consider myself a doomer, but a realist. I simply understand human nature and how inept it is in resolving major issues that will impact the planet and our survival as a species.

  2. dave thompson on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 2:38 am 

    Bloomer “I do not however consider myself a doomer, but a realist.”

    I for one am with you 100%. Point out the the factual reality to someone or a group of someones and you are admonished as a Cassandra or worse. This book looks like a tough read for anyone that does not “get it”.So most likely, will not be read, by most of the people.

  3. Davy on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 5:44 am 

    There is a life energy for those who embrace insecurity. There is a wisdom found in its acceptance. Usually acceptance is of something that has shown us humility. It is about failure and transformation. This is something hard to find in the modern world. Markets are about success. They are about arbitraging others failures. The popular narrative is about the manifest destiny of techno optimistic human achievement.

    The mindset today is not about reflection on failure but it should be. Everywhere we look we see this failure. We are in decline on all levels but the popular narrative hides this. Economic decline is hidden by plenty of growth too but not healthy growth. Just as we are making investments in a future with no future so are we in denial of the truth of what our species has become. Our species is an extinction species lets accept that and accept where that leads.

    This points to individual transformation because I see no hope for civilization. There is no golden age ahead for modern man. I would hope man will go through a transformation once modernism is gone on a destroyed planet. Maybe man will find wisdom in smaller numbers and advance spiritually. This is possible because limits are very far off for wisdom and spiritual enlightenment. Our material limits hide this reality. It is more likely man will fall into a pre-civilized state once modernism decays. The shock will be so complete it is possible our knowledge base will not survive. There are few attempts at passing on the important knowledge we have gained in modernism. This is because civilization does not acknowledge the possibility of collapse. Civilization does not have the time nor the resources to prepare for this as it should. There are efforts. The seed vault in Norway is one example.

    This is where you come in. You can become a monastery in your own little local. Build a library and save important things. If you are like me and have land then try to save a little nature. I am maintaining native grasses and wildflowers as a little oasis that one day could grow to repopulate a monoculture man has created for industrial farming.

    The important thing I have found about being a doomer and prepper is learning to live with the process. This is important because collapse is and has been a process. Too many doomers live as if this is the collapse. They live as if this is the rapture now. They are extremist and force an agenda. I know this personally because I was this way in 05. I saw 08 ahead and it came and then it went and I was left behind in the dust of another 13 years of a new and different growth and transformation of BAU. I learned from that failure and I feel it has made me a better doomer and prepper.

    Live in the process and this means living in both worlds. I no longer am seeing 3-5 years like I did back 4 years ago. I am now seeing 10-15 years or more but with the understanding collapse could come tomorrow. I have no illusion about collapse ahead someday or tomorrow. What has change with me is the process. Humans are like frogs with reality. We can be slow boiled by life. Embrace the process of collapse and realize growth is part of that. We are growing as we collapse.

    With that in mind then accept that life will continue to grow and grow with it. Yet, if you are a true doomer then you will begin the collapse process. You will find a good local that you can make your last stand in. You will collapse in place and do it with dignity and wisdom. If not for yourself then for your significant others. You will be a source of wisdom and intelligence by what grows up around you. You will do this in the status quo using the status quo but avoiding as best you can the pitfalls of the status quo.

    This is where the wisdom of insecurity comes in. This is where dooming shines. It shines from acceptance and acknowledgment of what science is telling us. It is also rejecting what science is telling us. Science is lying to itself about solutions. It is lying about affordability and the scaling of humans. Science is being fake green when it should be real green. The reason for this is science does not like the thought of wisdom telling it “NO” to further study and actually saying we need “LESS” science. Today’s science says “MOAR” is the answer. More science will save us. In this situation of existential dualistic dissonance then you can yield to the greater forces and use these greater forces to your advantage. You can embrace nature and she will support you. You can also prepare with hospices and lifeboats because what is ahead is dark, dangerous, and painful. The acceptance of this is mandatory because without accepting of the coming failure you cannot be transformed.

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 6:37 am 

    The author of the article Deb Ozarko:

    http://www.debozarko.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/podcast1.png

    She has a guru:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaNwzFbHvUs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYW_uKsaLW0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpd2pEAI5k

    Very West Coast.

    And she is into dogs and… um… “pussies”:

    http://www.debozarko.com/111/

    Perhaps this New Age woman is right, perhaps not.

    I think I’m going to remain a European “fascist”, not a West Coast liberal dropout and promote European means to solve the environmental crisis, namely with renewable technology.

  5. Davy on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 7:01 am 

    “I think I’m going to remain a European “fascist”, not a West Coast liberal dropout and promote European means to solve the environmental crisis, namely with renewable technology.”

    Why would “doing what Deb does” be considered a “dropout”? We need people who embrace nature and simpler way of life. Plenty of the same type of people in Europe. Tech is not the answer but it can be part of the answer. The real answer is demand management through adapted behavior. What we need more of is people who leave the rat race in voluntary simplicity. Our bad behavior is rooted in modernism of which the European means to solve the environmental crisis is just more of the same and fake green. At least what the Europeans are doing is green orientated but it is still fake green. It is less fake green than many other varieties and for that reason I applaud the Europeans.

  6. pointer on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 8:01 am 

    “…I offer you the powerful Introduction.

    If you dare, read on.”

    “This book is not for the faint of heart.”

    Oh, cut me a f**king break.


    “With a collective of 7.6 billion (as of this writing) and growing exponentially…”

    Dear Deb, if you do some research, you will find (a) population might be growing exponentially in the sense that “exponential” means “x grows in proportion to x, i.e. dx/dt = cx, but c is actually quite small these days and is getting smaller, so you’re using “exponentially” to mean “dramatically” which is not the case, (b) it will top out at about 11 billion around 2050, and (c) it will decline substantially by 2150, to something like 2.5 billion.

    Relax, Deb, civilizations all go through this. If you were a Mayan, or a Minoan, or an Egyptian, or a Greek, or a Roman, it would all have looked the same. There’s no saving this civilization, so your book is entirely futile. This civilization has pretty much run its course, it has caused its collateral damage, and in time a new civilization will emerge.

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 8:18 am 

    Why would “doing what Deb does” be considered a “dropout”?

    Beyond Hope: Letting Go Of A World In Collapse

    I reject that attitude (for myself).

    Instead we have a problem… that can and should be solved. Bye-bye fossil fuel.

    Do I reject her as a person? No, she can be a West Coast liberal dropout as much as she likes. She is “good for the environment”, so to speak.

    But the vast majority of people are trapped in their industrial societies and in big cities. For them different solutions need to be found:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_policy_of_the_European_Union

    It.can.be.done.

  8. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 8:23 am 

    CLogg you tell me who looks more like dropouts? Your pals or this lady?
    https://imgur.com/a/BN6Xq

    Nuff said! You are such a dumb meat puppet! Why dont you go fuck your cousin you imbread loser! And solar and wind are fucking scams and you have been duped by fake news you ignorant blowhard!

  9. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 8:31 am 

    Clogg peak oil is a liquid fuels problem. Not an electricity problem that can be solved by renewable s. 90 percent of transportation runs on oil and there are no fucking substitutes. The only thing that we can run without oil are small passenger cars EV’s that can’t even go out of the city..That isn’t going to cut it pal..You are the drop out!

  10. Dredd on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 8:51 am 

    Do the liberty walk (MARCHING FOR OUR LIVES).

  11. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 9:22 am 

    CLogg you tell me who looks more like dropouts? Your pals or this lady?

    https://imgur.com/a/BN6Xq

    It probably took you three hours of googling before you could find this poor little guy from Holland, no doubt trapped in a hostile majority allochtone quarter. He would be rejected by the SS, before he would manage to pass the entrance.lol

    No, I voted for Geert Wilders (PVV) in the last elections…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGy-CYhZczo

    …although I disagree with him on almost every topic (EU {*}, euro, environment), except the most important one, immigration (and surprisingly Russia).

    Here the final election debate in March, 2017 in Holland between the #1 PM Rutte and #2 Wilders:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FoYAP5FV_Q&t=60s

    Perhaps next time I vote for Thierry Baudet (FvD)…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hXVTX-Rg8s

    …who currently took over from Wilders, in the polls:

    https://home.noties.nl/peil/

    {*} Interestingly Richard Spencer said recently that he is against abolishing the EU, but that instead Europe should aim for a political defeat of the 1968-politicians and take over Europe and the EU. Exactly my approach too.

  12. Davy on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 9:31 am 

    The vast majority are not trapped in industrial cities. Last I looked it is a little over 1/2. Many of those trapped in industrial cities should be cajoled to live more simply in rural living arrangements. Cities can be made smaller and smarter at least until we run out of time because of limits. Renewables are only a stop gap solution to temporally negotiate the end of modernism within a destabilizing currently relatively stable climate.

    The key to our future is demand management accompanied with adapted behavior. To the extent we embrace these wise strategies is directly related to the amount of time we buy. The end of modernism is ahead but we can manage that end or let that end completely drive us like a herd of animals from one storm to another.

  13. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 9:55 am 

    Denialism is another form of insanity that is prevalent these days. There are numerous people who haunt collapse sites to try and refute any claim that Collapse is actually in progress. They are obviously fully aware of it, but the coping mechanism here is just to deny every piece of evidence that becomes manifest. Their screams of denial sound like the squealing of a pig beginning delivered to the butchers shop. The volume of their protestations being directly proportional to the proximity of their inevitable fate….

  14. pointer on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 10:23 am 

    Serious question: What’s really important?

  15. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 10:30 am 

    Exposing the great ‘poverty reduction’ lie

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/08/exposing-great-poverty-reductio-

    201481211590729809.html

  16. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 12:15 pm 

    Denialism is another form of insanity that is prevalent these days. There are numerous people who haunt collapse sites to try and refute any claim that Collapse is actually in progress. They are obviously fully aware of it, but the coping mechanism here is just to deny every piece of evidence that becomes manifest.

    Oh but how can you say that?! I do not deny collapse of the US empire at all. And that it could become pretty messy in the process, including the possibility of WW3, where unlike WW2, this time BOTH parties are interested in war.

    The US deep state, because it will attempt the flight forward and play va banque, Eurasia because it is interested in the Anglo loot, mostly China and Down Under.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-australias-dangerous-ally-11858

    And in case of war, oil could indeed become scarce.

    #PeakOilWar

  17. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 12:22 pm 

    The vast majority are not trapped in industrial cities. Last I looked it is a little over 1/2.

    I didn’t say that, although my phrasing was indeed ambiguous.

    Here a second attempt: “But the vast majority of people are trapped in their industrial societies, many of whom live in big cities.”

    Many of those trapped in industrial cities should be cajoled to live more simply in rural living arrangements.

    The idea that they could be transferred to “rural living arrangements” is unrealistic. Who is going to build tens of million of new houses in the US country side over night? Nobody. Houses are build to last a century at least, before they can be written off economically.

    The longer a society postpones the inevitable renewable energy transition, the deeper the “dip” is going to be. Avoid the rush, transfer now.

  18. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 1:26 pm 

    clogg Europe is in the same mess as the US..Why else do you think these right wing rejects are being elected? And the brexit happened? Its not because things are so great everywhere! LOL Look the numbers its no better than the US..
    https://imgur.com/a/OB1w6

  19. Davy on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 1:26 pm 

    It won’t be a transition it will be a partial transformation at best. This is the reason cities need to be made smaller and smarter. Renewable energy will be part of that but so can a move to the country side with people making smaller ecological foot prints. This will need to be promoted no different than renewables. Will it happen, likely not enough to make a difference until it is too late. The trend and policy is towards urbanization and that is a mistake. In the third world it is already too late. Many of the rural areas are full now

  20. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 1:43 pm 

    clogg Europe is in the same mess as the US..Why else do you think these right wing rejects are being elected? And the brexit happened? Its not because things are so great everywhere! LOL

    You have this nasty habit of laughing at the wrong moment.

    Europe is NOT in an economic mess at all, with Germany and Holland scoring one trade surplus after the other. Eastern Europe is doing fine as well.

    Brexit happened because British do not feel European but Anglo and the British elite failed to succeed in using the British EU-membership to blow the EU up from within.

    Now with the British out we can swap very pc Britain for very non-pc Russia, which increases our survival chances… as a European society.

    But be my guest, your tribe can turn the US into a third world society. You do realize though that you run a terrible risk in doing so, because certain folks will deeply resent that. No?

  21. Davy on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 2:42 pm 

    Rubbish, neder, the economic situation in Europe like the US and China is a mixed bag so please stop your cheerleading. What makes you think surpluses are an indicator of all is well?

  22. Theedrich on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 5:01 pm 

    “Growth” is so wonderful.  In the U.S., both political parties (although the Demonics more so) are complicit.  Despite the rhetoric and virtue-signalling, there is no change, nothing new.  Tainteresque complexification and overshoot continue.  The effect of sob stories, the political usefulness of accusations of “racism” in dealing with illegal immigration — and, in fact, with corruption of many types — overcome all reason.

    Leftist billionaire media moguls and trillionaire paymasters of the deep state, weeping over black and brown poverty (but conveniently ignoring the causative low IQ), defeat any and all types of change of direction.  Elite hypocrisy knows no bounds:  the royal race-mixers claim to be philanthropic, “green,” etc., at the same time that they call for more “development” and assistance (by Judeo-Cretin Whitey, of course) for outhouse countries, their corrupt governments and their exploding, atavistic populations.

    Yet more:  secretly, a trillion thoroughly laundered dollars kleptocratically extracted from the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and southeastern Europe have been “invested” in anonymous funds (often through law firms with their attorney-client privacy privileges) in America and — who knew? — in the U.K.  In other words, in the world’s richest hypocrisies.  (For a more on this, see the Atlantic Council’s discussion on the Future of Russia, especially the information delivered by Anders Aslund, former economic adviser to the Russian Government, 1990-94, and an Atlantic Council Resident Senior Fellow, at https://www.c-span.org/video/?442720-1/panelists-discuss-results-russian-election, points 0:45-51, also 1:05-06, 1:12 and 1:26-29.  He mentions $300 billion from Russia being invested yearly in the U.S., $125 billion in the U.K.)  Without these inflows of stolen cash, the Anglosphere would sink into deep depression, and regime change would occur.  Can’t have that.

    In the interest of space, the role of China and other bribe-providing countries must be left undiscussed here.  But on Friday, 2018 March 23, the U.S. government passed a $1.3 trillion spending orgy to continue the drive off the precipice.  Both the legislative and the executive branches gloried (with appropriate excuses and self-exculpations, of course) in the suicidal extravaganza.  In short, because of the financial and political benefits to top politicians, both welfare and warfare will continue.  Isn’t growth wunnerful?

  23. Darrell Cloud on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 5:37 pm 

    It is in no body’s interest to take the house down. It’s in everybody’s interest to skim a little off the top. We collectively have dodged a lot of bullets, everything from solar flares, to near misses on nuclear war, to sleeping super volcanoes. The bomb shelters we built back in the sixties are cracked and leaking and filled with mold. Most of the things we worry about never happen or at least they do not happen the way we anticipated. Common sense precautions designed to take you through immediate short term crises should be on everybody’s list. We know that prolonged cold spells take down harvests like what happened in 436, and we know that starving populations take down civilizations.
    Our Achilles heel is the grid. I have seen it collapse here in central Florida four times in the last 14 years. The Puerto Ricans are experts on the problem. Figure out how to get your family through a grid down collapse with all its ramifications and you and yours have a great chance of getting through the bottle necks.
    Future cities may very well look like this: https://www.reverberations.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/the-mont-saint-michel-jeremie-eloy-wanaiifilms-com.jpg

  24. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Mar 2018 5:38 pm 

    What makes you think surpluses are an indicator of all is well?

    Dunno. Somehow I think most governments would prefer Dutch trade surplus over US trade deficit.

  25. Kat C on Sun, 25th Mar 2018 4:20 am 

    The only truly positive thing people can do right now is not procreate. Not because it will save the world but because it will prevent another unborn to become born and have to suffer an untimely death.
    I am not a doomer even tho I think extinction of all higher life forms is coming as it did in the end Permian. I am not a doomer because the extinction of life forms with central nervous systems means the end of pain,the end of fear. Life existed for billions of years without central nervous systems. The evolution of central nervous systems led to humans. Humans are creating the next round of mass extinctions on this planet just as the anaerobic bacteria almost extincted themselves eons ago…they too polluted their atmosphere by oxygenating it. But being small and more adaptable they hid underground, only reminding us of their presence in poorly canned foods and puncture wounds. Despite our big brains we can’t survive under a green sky or with wet bulb temps over a certain limit. So it goes, round and round, only difference is that with our big brains we can see what we are doing and care about it. But our big brains also give us the ability to deceive ourselves, to go into denial, and so in the end we are in fact as mindless as those anaerobic bacteria.

  26. DerHundistlos on Sun, 25th Mar 2018 11:40 pm 

    Pointer asks, “Serious question: What’s really important?”

    I can answer the question teacher. The answer is not your stupid hopium that all civilizations go through “this” so relax.

    Instead of relax, your conventional wisdom comment convinces me even more that humanity is screwed, and soon.

  27. DerHundistlos on Sun, 25th Mar 2018 11:42 pm 

    “Denialism is another form of insanity that is prevalent these days. There are numerous people who haunt collapse sites to try and refute any claim that Collapse is actually in progress. They are obviously fully aware of it, but the coping mechanism here is just to deny every piece of evidence that becomes manifest.”

    WELL STATED. I did a copy and paste of your statement.

  28. Bilbo on Mon, 26th Mar 2018 11:54 am 

    Davy, ‘modernism’ doesn’t mean where we live now, it was a state in the 19th until the mid 20th century. Then it finished, hence postmodernism.

  29. Davy on Mon, 26th Mar 2018 12:09 pm 

    bilbo, we are not talking art here we are talking doom. You know anything about dooming?

  30. pointer on Thu, 5th Apr 2018 5:54 am 

    Hey, Hund, cite a case of a civilization that did not get stupid and then collapse.

    Humanity is screwed, but I suspect some more civilizations will have their days before it is all over.

    And clearly you don’t know what’s really important. Keep trying.

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