The less one needs, the wealthier one is. Real wealth is lack of needs, meaning that the greediest is the poorest.

You are blessed.

Nature provides, all food is a blessing from Mother Nature. Only complete idiots would try to best Mother Nature in what she knows by heart, growing.

Natural gardening (/permaculture/agroforestry etc.) could still provide the basic needs of the whole current human population and then some. Nature is bountifull, it's the greed and hunger for power (over nature) that is the killer.

Wealth comes from agriculture, forestry, mining, and manufacturing. Everything else spreads the wealth around.

Workers in the agriculture, forestry, mining, and manufacturing industries don't tend to make a lot of money, though. This is a very tricky question and one you should think about a lot.

G-Surfer hat geschrieben:


Sie koennen nicht Ihrem sonnenuntergang geniessen ohne etwas im magen; einem dach ueber kopf; und sicherheit fuer Ihre kinder. Alles muess in ordnung, dann gibts frieden und freiheit. Armut ist nicht befriedigung! Wir haben alle verantwortung. Fuer uns, fuer unsere familie, und fuer Die das haben weniger.

Nur noch ein Gott koennen uns retten.

Gott hilft denen, die sich selber helfen. Wir alle sterben. Was ist wichtig ist was wir hier am Erde machen.

Yup... A bunch of nekkid humans in the middle of a desert cant create anything. At the present time wealth flows principally from holes in the ground, but a combination of factors are involved, and everything builds on the shoulders of the past.

Wealth flows from:
A freely available energy source + a pre-existing infrastructure capable of utilizing that energy source + a skilled and knowledgeable workforce capable of utilizing that infrastructure.

And wealth, knowledge, technology and civilization itself can flow in reverse. We can all choose to follow Zimbabwe back into the Stone Age. Boy, will that ever teach us. You betcha!

Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think.

Apparently only the Government can think for us? Like the Church before them? Like the Pharoah before them? Like the witch doctor before them?

Wealth is an illusion. That is what makes everyone so upset. That they cannot have what others do not have.

It comes from billions of Chinese turning common sand & petroleum into gadgets & more complex things. Everyone else slices that labor into finer & finer pieces, resells it, loans it, barters it.

To be honest I cannot think of a better example of paper wealth and real wealth destruction as China? Wait until you get their bill for global climate change because they underpriced and closed down manufacturing in the western world, and now because of that they do not feel obliged to pay for the environmental clean-up caused by manufacturing products sold in the west. Gotta love that logic. You should pay me for taking your job!

$$ Wealth comes from using others labor and or thier money.

As soon as I have a surplus to invest then I must by necessity choose between investing in land, labor, resources, technical know-how or some other tangible (or intangible) asset. We all live in the present. Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not arrived. As soon as I have two cows and two acres of land and you have one cow and one acre then I am a capitalist. That is wealth. Accumulated savings from an over-production. In the societal context it is not whether I produce more than I need, but how that surplus is put to work or re-distributed. If you want to be poor that is, of course, your choice. Spend, baby, spend!