Kool-aid

but anywho. I wonder what they will say on the news here in a few months when things start to fall apart again?

They need to just accept the great depression. I am getting sick and tired of waiting. Collapse the fucking system now, so that it starts recovering about my graduation time.

I worked on Wall Street at one time and was required to know and understand many SEC and Federal Reserve regulations.

There's nothing in the Federal Reserve Act that would allow the type of deal arranged by the Fed last week.

If they don't even pretend to be following some type of rule of law, the situation must have been very bad. It still may be, because eventually somehow $1 trillion in mortgage related losses are going to have to realized.

could it be due to this?

titanic sunk intentionally?


thats a different take.

Yeah, I think it was in the artic triangle or something an them gauges went haywire.

Wow, conspiracy theorists abound here. Not just satisfied to dwell on today's calamaties to explain and instill fear, they even have to ding into the past for fertile legends to create.

One thing we can never say about 'em. they never half-ass it.

The boilers were running to hot and they couldn't shut em down. It was full speed ahead.................

Yea, some theories are out there... area 51, etc.
But, it equally doesn't make sense to me that there are NO such things as conspiracies.
I mean, if people are capable of mass genocide (Hitler), what's to say that there are some people capable of other stuff, namely deception?

I refuse to think that, in a world with corruption that is so obvious, there isn't at least ONE conspiracy operating somewhere. Cmon, we have mafia, druglords, African dictators, Nazi regimes, what makes the more powerful and popular governments infallible?
But conspiracy that involves the U.S. government or Britian, or the oil price, or food, or the entire U.S. banking system or money system is a preposterous conspiracy theory that isn't true, because it is inconceivable that these people in charge could have any trace whatsoever of corruption.

Of course, conspiracies, by their nature, are really hard to prove because presumably a conspiracy is supposed to be kept supersecret. That is what makes it a theory.
If I were a power hungry, super rich maniac, I would say controlling the money supply would be a great thing, or a large bank, or food supplies, or oil.

I just don't get why when people hear the suggestion that Government lies to them about major events, they put up an immediate resistance to the idea and think "that is inconceivable that the government would lie... CONSPIRACY THEORY" I mean, you can read in a high school history book about how countries lied to their people. How many Germans actually realized that their own country was killing millions of people during WW2. Probably a lot, but I don't think Germany made it publicly known.
On the same token, since conspiracies are secret, the best we can do is speculate, and even knowing the reality, although eye-opening, makes little practical difference.

I think this is a straw man. The usual criticism of "conspiracy theories" is not that they are impossible, but that they are far less plausible than the "mainstream explanation", IMHO. I've heard a bushel of 9/11 conspiracy theories... it was a missile that hit the Pentagon, Building 7 was blown up by explosives, etc etc. When I hear that one, I think "why would the Shadowy Conspiracy do that? What's in it for them? Isn't it more plausible that the hijacked airliner was just a highjacked airliner (given that we know for sure there were already two hijacked planes in the air"

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Sinking the Titanic to put a hit on three men? Maybe it just hit an iceberg and sank.
edit: i just clicked on the link provided by golem. Whoo! Fasten your tinfoil hats! (BTW, the person who wrote that knows utterly nothing about money, monetary policy, banking, or the Federal Reserve).

A conspiracy theory is only a theory until it is proven.

If something sounds fishy to you, submit it to this simple litmus test: Has anyone in all of recorded history, regardless of the motivation, ever decended to this depth to achieve their own ends? 9 times out of 10, the answer will be "Yes".
You might be inclined to ask yourself "what bearing does history have on this question?" The answer is simple. Regardless of the motivations of the persons involved in past conspiracies, the stakes were nowhere near as high as they are now.

Thus the question ultimately becomes "How far would I go, if the roles were reversed?" If one is truly honest with one's self, the answer will be something akin to "This far at least".
Once you accept that simple truism (That one of sound mind will go to any length to assure one's own survival), you can truly grasp the depth of inhuman action.

I believe it's true. A number of powerful people on the Titanic were against the concept of the Federal Reserve (which was being drafted to pass through congress at this time). JP Morgan was scheduled to be on board the Titanic (he had ownership though his network into the white star line) but cancelled his trip at the last minute. The captain was a Jesuit who had some 20 odd years experience sailing on the route the Titanic was chosen to take. Also when the Titanic was sinking there were white flares shot into the air. This denotes a celebration as red flares are to be used in emergencies.

Hey, thanks for WWI.

federalreserve.com

What the hell?!
- 20 million human beings killed by governments
- Italy and Germany in economic ruin and looking for a savior
- The Great Depression.

I agree. Thanks a lot Ben.
The chutzpah of this guy never ceases to amaze me.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.j ... rbs118.xml

...Who to believe?