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patience
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Post subject: Re: "The Federal Reserve's rescue has failed" Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:36 am |
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The daily flood of financial bad news and the prediction of collapse I posted above, has me aiming at a prep goal of mid-summer to finish some critical items. Among those is cleaning out a spare room in case some family members need it.
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Revi
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Post subject: Re: "The Federal Reserve's rescue has failed" Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:44 am |
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RdSnt wrote: I realize most people, who are paying attention, are frightened; nevertheless you all need to get use to the word "depression". The US population has been experiencing a recession for some time now. Lost jobs, I don't count Wal_slaves; shrinking paychecks; no infrastructure improvements, reduced value of the US dollar, inflation, mammoth debts at all levels. You are going straight to a Depression, do not stop at recession, do not expect to pay off your mortgage, be very prepared to defend against eviction. You are bankrupt, you are morally exhausted and paralysized by timidity, greed, and your country is in the hands of cowards. Revi wrote: Yes, Dantes. I can feel the hot breath of the recession on my neck. I wonder what the best thing to do to prepare is. It sounds like we only have a few months until the window of opportunity closes.
Our state is in real trouble, but it sounds like a lot of others are too.
Thanks, I feel a lot better now RdSnt. Maine is a lot like Canada, but without the money. Same temperatures, anyway.
I have heard the word depression used a lot lately. Is it a state of mind or of the economy, or both?
_________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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Post subject: Re: "The Federal Reserve's rescue has failed" Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:20 am |
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Thanks, I feel a lot better now RdSnt. Maine is a lot like Canada, but without the money. Same temperatures, anyway.
I have heard the word depression used a lot lately. Is it a state of mind or of the economy, or both?[/quote]
For most people it is probably both, but taking Prozac won't help in either case!
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Post subject: Re: "The Federal Reserve's rescue has failed" Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:40 am |
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Quote: The verdict is in. The Fed's emergency rate cuts in January have failed to halt the downward spiral towards a full-blown debt deflation. Much more drastic action will be needed.
Of course cutting rates is not going to help. The problem is not money, IT’S DEPLETION!
Until this is understood, anything they do will probably have as much negative effect, as it does beneficial. They are running the same old paradigms in a new race, and they are running at 500 mph straight toward a concrete wall!
Fasten your seat belts, Alfred E. Newman is driving the bus!
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RdSnt
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Post subject: Re: "The Federal Reserve's rescue has failed" Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:11 am |
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Oh, I was talking about economic matters. I'm not the least bit depressed emotionally.
I worry most times though. The general population is not paying attention and thus much of the misery that is about to befall all of us is going to be a big surprise and shock. Their reaction worries me a great deal.
Personally I can defend against that panic, but many will suffer unnecessarily.
Revi wrote: RdSnt wrote: I realize most people, who are paying attention, are frightened; nevertheless you all need to get use to the word "depression". The US population has been experiencing a recession for some time now. Lost jobs, I don't count Wal_slaves; shrinking paychecks; no infrastructure improvements, reduced value of the US dollar, inflation, mammoth debts at all levels. You are going straight to a Depression, do not stop at recession, do not expect to pay off your mortgage, be very prepared to defend against eviction. You are bankrupt, you are morally exhausted and paralysized by timidity, greed, and your country is in the hands of cowards. Revi wrote: Yes, Dantes. I can feel the hot breath of the recession on my neck. I wonder what the best thing to do to prepare is. It sounds like we only have a few months until the window of opportunity closes.
Our state is in real trouble, but it sounds like a lot of others are too. Thanks, I feel a lot better now RdSnt. Maine is a lot like Canada, but without the money. Same temperatures, anyway. I have heard the word depression used a lot lately. Is it a state of mind or of the economy, or both?
_________________ Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
To get any appreciable distance from the Earth in
a sensible amount of time, you must lie.
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Post subject: Jim Rodgers CNBC "Abolish the Federal Reserve!" Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:36 pm |
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_________________ Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destory health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality.
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Post subject: Re: Jim Rodgers CNBC "Abolish the Federal Reserve!" Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:00 pm |
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That was great viewing! 
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essex
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Post subject: Re: Jim Rodgers CNBC "Abolish the Federal Reserve!" Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:32 am |
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Excellent link, couldn't agree more with good ol Jim.
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Post subject: Re: Jim Rodgers CNBC "Abolish the Federal Reserve!" Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:50 am |
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Only problem is he's about 45 years too late.
_________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
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Post subject: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:54 pm |
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We may never know for sure whether the Federal Reserve's rescue of Bear Stearns averted a seizure of the $516 trillion derivatives system, the ultimate Chernobyl for global finance.
"If the Fed had not stepped in, we would have had pandemonium," said James Melcher, president of the New York hedge fund Balestra Capital.
……Bear Stearns had total positions of $13.4 trillion. This is greater than the US national income, or equal to a quarter of world GDP - at least in "notional" terms. The contracts were described as "swaps", "swaptions", "caps", "collars" and "floors". This heady edifice of new-fangled instruments was built on an asset base of $80bn at best.
Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.j ... fed123.xml
Last Updated: 9:59am GMT 24/03/2008Page 1 of 3
When the Federal Reserve stepped in to save Bear Stearns, most people had no idea what was at stake, writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
We may never know for sure whether the Federal Reserve's rescue of Bear Stearns averted a seizure of the $516 trillion derivatives system, the ultimate Chernobyl for global finance.
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Post subject: Re: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:32 pm |
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It's always interesting to get confirmation, but I don't think anyone here is terribly surprised. Excellent find, Angry.
_________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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RdSnt
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Post subject: Re: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:51 pm |
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This deal has the stink of a corpse. I have never seen such a blatantly corrupt act, on such a large scale.
These are desperate cowards without a thought in their heads other than saving their own skins.
_________________ Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
To get any appreciable distance from the Earth in
a sensible amount of time, you must lie.
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Post subject: Re: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:36 pm |
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Dreamtwister wrote: It's always interesting to get confirmation, but I don't think anyone here is terribly surprised. Excellent find, Angry.
i agree.
_________________ "if god doesn't exist, it is necessary that we invent him" - Voltaire
"they say prescott bush funded hitler" - Nas
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Post subject: Re: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:09 pm |
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More like they've merely postponed the event, and that what we'll get a few months down the road will be several times worse than what it would have been if they'd let BS die a natural death.
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FoxV
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Post subject: Re: Fed's rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:06 pm |
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auscanman wrote: More like they've merely postponed the event, and that what we'll get a few months down the road will be several times worse than what it would have been if they'd let BS die a natural death.
well its end of the quarter so Write down season is coming up.
here's the Merrill at the starting gate with another $8B to add to its current total of $25B
So just how much capital does Merrill have anyways? And just how much Treasuries does the Fed have left for these guys to play Hide the Sausage with?
These Accounting Shell games can only last so long till somebody has to mark their Derivatives to market. And when that happens the FED will be taken out because they're loading up on the stuff.
Keep drinking that cool-aid boys
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