Looks like the price of food may be going up.

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Sterilization for dead beat dads? I like it! After that becomes acceptable, I would add a few more crimes individual should be sterilized for Rape, is an obvious choice, then all convicted felons, crack addicts....

Then we may want to entertain sterilization for anyone needing public assistance. After all, we all know that once people go on the dole, they tend to stay on the dole for generations. Why not break the pattern.

Then there is the problem with all those people that are born with a genetic disease like downs syndrome. Sterilization would help remove that scourge from the earth.

Finally we could go after all those ugly people..........Wait! That's me!!!

I guess you have to figure out where to draw the line.

Letting people starve to death would also break the pattern.

I would say that using the slippery slope argument as a reason to do nothing will just result in Gaia doing the dirty work for us in a way that will make forced sterilization seem like a slap on the wrist.

Well, it seems kinda harsh, I have to admit.. but here is the thinking.... If you are asking the government, literally at gunpoint, to take money away from hard working people like me, to support a litter of kids that some guy fathers and is unable to support.... then it starts to make sense for the goverment to also have the ability to put a stop to that crap so that the practice does not continue.....Same goes for the moms. Spaying, they call it I guess...

Rape? That is a slightly different issue. Publicly televised castration without anesthesia in certain cases is probably a more appropriate penalty. Depends on the case. We will put it on right before or after Ultimate Fighting. The commercial revenue will be used for victim counseling.

Crack? I suppose that if you get loaded, and then OD, and show up in an emergency room and have to ask the government, that is, hard-working me, who is being forced at gunpoint to pay taxes, to take care of you, then you should have to perform some appropriate service to pay us back.....If you choose to spend your afternoons in the back yard getting high on crack, and not work, and expect the government to take tax money from me, and give it to you so that you do not starve, .... we can't really have that either, can we? I will have to search my soul for a solomon-like pound of flesh that we can extract from you in exchange for me feeding you, if you choose to do this while you are still young and frisky instead of find a job of some type.....

Side point: I would be delighted to sit in my backyard and drink beer and have the government send me money, and expect nothing in return, but I will have to wait 11 years (if social security still exists by that time) for me to get to do it. Hopefully I will still be good looking.

Right now, stupidly, in the case of reproduction, we have the government enabling the personal irresponsibility, and not expecting anything in return. How does that make sense?

You should either pull the plug on the welfare, and get the government out of peoples lives, and let them sink or swim or starve or get loaded and OD if they want, which in a way would be desirable, or insist on your pound of flesh from the dads, and moms, if need be....and use the proceeds to make sure those little kids are responsibly taken care of and do not turn into criminals.....

The guy Howard Ruff pointed out years ago that people have figured out how to vote themselves benefits out of the treasury, without any additional responsibility on their part.

Here is the worst part.... not to be changing the subject: but if you are a banker, and have managed to make a bunch of stupid decisions and run your bank into the ground, why should the government bail you out? Why would we not be outraged if they raided my 401K so some fatass can comfortably go to his mansion in the Hamptons this afternoon and look at the TIVO of the Real Housewives" last night? I have no mansion. I have no Tivo. Here is why: The cowardly government got the money from someone who would not complain about it: The nation's 3-year olds.

If it was so important that this deal be done, why did not the government come to me and say "pup55, it is important that we do this, therefore we are going to have to charge you and everyone else in the country $100K to keep the whole system running"...... The reason is, they would have been immediately rounded up and driven into the Potomac for being the rats that they are.

What I am afraid that they are instead doing is just inflating the currency, costing me $100,000 in deferred consumption since my 2025 dollars will be worth much less, and not telling me that either....

Similarly, the Iraq War.... If this had been so important, so vital to spend a trillion dollars to attack a nation of 22 million goat herders.... why did they not come to us and say "pay up, $100K each of you"....and oh, by the way, contribute your first born son or daughter to the war effort.... same reason.... there is no way, in those terms, that they could have gotten the job done.....so they were cowards and took the easy way out. They took it "off budget", and asked our so-called professional army of mercenaries plus a lot of civilian contractors to do it for us. You know what Machiavelli said about mercenaries.....

So that is why the system is going to come to a screeching halt someday.....There is a disconnect between the government service and the cost. The government mammary gland is finite, someone is finally going to have to have the courage to come forward and ask us to sacrifice, and then, being the animals we are, all hell will break loose.... like it should have years ago...

Sorry for threadjacking this into a rant.....but it is the "hell breaking loose" we are talking about, isn't it?

For the banksters the government tit seems to be infinite, by comparison the rest of us seem to be getting some other fluid from somewhere other than a mammary gland.

I have to agree though that Gaia shall take care of the population problem. why doesnt the .gov just offer people a shotgun for sterilization. Works in India, bet it would work here too.

ORLY? Didn't we just pass an extension to unemployment benefits?

Looks like something out of a dystopian film
As The Billionaires Plunder Alabama, U.S. Troops Occupy Towns…Illegally

http://exiledonline.com/as-the-billionaires-plunder-alabama-us-troops-occupy-townsillegally/

I love the spin of that article that seems to glorify the guy who went on a shooting rampage.

I know some people are hardwired these days to see everything that plays out in anti-authoritarian terms, but in the meantime, innocent people are dying, and the dipshits going postal are the ones who should be blamed, not TPTB.

Maybe they should consider shooting at the Chamber of Commerce, which represents corporate interests .

Let's look into this a bit....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Langford

This is the guy that got them into the problem: The EPA was onto Jefferson County for allowing sewage to get into the local water system. They needed to raise money, they decided rather than go to the people and ask for new taxes they would borrow the money, and there was some backdealing on the financing and brokering of this deal that caused money to wind up in the pocket of Langford, who has been convicted on 101 counts of bribery and polical corruption.

For doing such a wonderful job in Jefferson County in the 2002-2005 time frame he was elected to Mayor of Birningham, where he brought the same kind of magic to the budget in Birmingham as well.... nice work if you can get it. He is a former TV reporter as well....

Here is the current county commission of Jefferson County...

http://jeffconline.jccal.org/home/news/commission.html/73409395/Article.aspx

The chairman: former Real estate person, Republican National Committeewoman for Alabama
Lawyer/career politician/former school guidance counselor
TV anchor woman, journalism degree, born in Flint MI....SCLC and NAACP leader
Former fireman (25 years with the city), with an associates degree in fire science...
Former Engineer, hardcore republican well entwined with the statewide and national republican party...

So you have two members that are pro-development/anti tax, the good old boy fireman, and two "urbanites".....

In essence, the "swing vote", as it were, to get anything accomplished in this wonderful area comes down to that of the good old boy fireman.....

The whole growth strategy in these sunbelt towns is as follows: Set the budget about 6% higher than you can afford. Do not go to the public and ask for more tax money. Instead, you borrow the money, and you count on 7% growth over the time you need to pay it back, and all is well, you let the real estate people take over, they build new houses and the homeowners pay taxes, and as long as the growth exceeds your budget deficit, you are in business. The real estate people are happy, you are happy because you can provide goverment services without having to raise taxes, and no one is the wiser, right?

So the two fundamental assumptions are:(a) Growth will last forever, real estate will always go up in value and we will always have an endless stream of new homeowners. (b) We do not feel like raising taxes, and we do not have to as long as there are another 10,000 new houses next year....

Throw in a bit of graft, and you can see where this is an accident waiting to happen....some unexpected expense comes up, you can only tap into the fantasy land of infinite economic growth for so long, and you are in a heap-a- trouble, son, as they might say down there......

Good in theory, but I know a couple of guys that willingly paid child support after their divorces, and then because of unemployment, went to jail for non-support afterwards. In some cases, non support is more a fabrication of conditions then true intent.
I do not doubt that some of the posters on this board could find themselves in such conditions. Then nut-cutting may not seem like such a great punishment.
And for the record, after my divorce, I willingly paid a lot more than the court required to make sure my kids had a good life.

Hmmmm.....

Well, perhaps I should rethink the issue.

Question: At any time during your child support situation did you actually feel like going out and fathering a few more kids? I suppose it is a bit difficult to father kids from jail, although it is not unheard of, so at least your friends were chilled out for awhile.

I wholeheartedly appreciate you taking care of your kids in excess of what the law requires, but I am afraid there is a segment of society that just pops them out and walks away from them. I suppose a wise judge would be able to tell the difference between somebody who was a serial baby daddy, rather than someone who got divorced and then had some bad employment luck.

Nope, after I had two kids, I thought that was enough.
And even my friends that went to jail quit at two kids - so far, at least.
I was just trying to say that many (probably most) people who have kids want to do the most for them that they can. But sometimes, conditions don't allow them to be as good a parent as they wish. Some are dirtbags, but many are just dirt poor.
And I don't trust that judges have a real lock on wisdom. If the book says go to jail, they don't usually look past that. In my book, justice in our country is usually more just, if you have money - in which case you can probably pay the support anyway.
But justice is probably another discussion.

There is something happening here, and what it is ain’t exactly clear. The series of continuous crisis caused by government actions has allowed the political class in conjunction with an oligopoly of bankers and mega-corporations to hijack the American Republic. The American public has allowed this to happen by being distracted by the imaginary differences between the Democratic and Republican parties. There is virtually no difference between these parties. Both parties have taken away American freedoms and liberties. The government has waged undeclared wars since the 1950’s, they have restricted freedom of speech, freedom to own a gun, freedom to healthcare, freedom to protest, and freedom to live our lives the way we choose.

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