Many US doctors plan to quit

uNkNowN ElEmEnt · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:14 am

I have often thought it was stupid to overwork doctors for things like when your work wants you to bring in a note. Its obvious you ahve a cold or flu so why do you have to go to a doctor for that. Or is that like giving a doctor a 5 minute break because it is a simple thing they can charge for.

Should we burden doctors for small trivial things? Face it we have become a society of whiners, we have to see doctors for almost everything... (yes, taht is a generalization and I don't mean the majority of peak oil peoples.)

Pretorian · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:05 am

smallpoxgirl wrote:

My grandest ambition in life is to have some land where I can raise goats. I drive a 15 year old Saturn, live in a rented duplex, and made $19,000 last year.

I got some for you then. Plenty of water, not far from the lake full of trouts, clean air, unspoiled natural vegetation, has some minerals and OIL. Around $ 13 per acre (negotiable). To ease the burden, I am throwing in free healthcare, free education and pretty much non-existent income tax. Interested?

Ayoob · **Joined:** Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:00 am **Posts:** 1312

smallpoxgirl wrote:

misterno wrote:

This is a joke right?

Dead serious.

I made more than that as an EMT working three months out of the year last year.

This year, I'll probably make more than you as a nurse.

Supposedly, there are a lot of doctors getting out of the business now.

smallpoxgirl · **Joined:** Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:00 am **Posts:** 7742

uNkNowN ElEmEnt wrote:

I have often thought it was stupid to overwork doctors for things like when your work wants you to bring in a note. Its obvious you ahve a cold or flu so why do you have to go to a doctor for that. Or is that like giving a doctor a 5 minute break because it is a simple thing they can charge for.

The thing I hate about colds is that people who come in with a cold usually hate being told that they have a cold. "I spent $50 and took the time to come in here and now your telling me to rest, drink liquids and take Tylenol?!?!?" Most people who come in with a cold are fishing for antibiotics that they don't need and won't benefit from. When it's something simple like a work note, that's bonus. None of the uncomfortable negotiation thing. I love it when the patient needs something simple and I can quickly give it to them and they leave happy.

Ivan Illich talks a lot in Limits to Medicine about the conflicting roles that doctors are put in vis-a-via things like work notes, disability determinations, etc. First doctors take it as their mission to exterminate suffering (an impossible task). Then society tasks them with being the ones to certify when people are suffering.

RedStateGreen · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:22 pm

ReverseEngineer wrote:

Its not surprising Doctors are ready to quit here, but just what are these folks going to do as an alternative? Go out and drive a truck?

I'm a SAHM. My training is in family medicine, but after ten years of it, I couldn't take any more.

PrairieMule · **Posted:** Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:18 pm

smallpoxgirl wrote:

:lol:

Yeah. That's me to a T. :roll:

Think about what you know of me PM. My grandest ambition in life is to have some land where I can raise goats. I drive a 15 year old Saturn, live in a rented duplex, and made $19,000 last year. Does any of that remind you of God? I'm about as plain old folks as they come.

Now that's sounds exactly like something that smug Alec Baldwin would say. I'll bet Alec drives drives a 15 year old Saturn as well just to be ironic. Would you slick back all your goat's hair with Paul Mitchell gel product as well? :roll:

TommyJefferson · **Posted:** Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:04 am

smallpoxgirl wrote:

RVUs - Relative Value Units. ...This is why our healthcare system is the way it is.

Here's an interesting interview from Lew Rockwell this week where a doctor describes how the government broke the physician/patient relationship, and how HIPPA has actually destroyed the privacy of that relationship (click to listen online)...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=e ... l_mess.mp3

If you like Lew, throw this feed into your podcatcher...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/feed.xml

If you prefer RSS readers...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rss.xml

uNkNowN ElEmEnt · **Posted:** Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:17 am

smallpoxgirl wrote:

When it's something simple like a work note, that's bonus.

From now on I'm not going to grump about having to go to the doctor for a note if its ever needed. I'll just look at it as compensating the doctor for the times I walk in to their office with something that is going to take time or be gross... which should be too long now, I've hit my hand with a hatchet at least 4 times in teh last two weeks.

smallpoxgirl · **Joined:** Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:00 am **Posts:** 7742

TommyJefferson wrote:

Here's an interesting interview from Lew Rockwell this week where a doctor describes how the government broke the physician/patient relationship

Absolutely brilliant interview Tommy. Really made me question some of how I approach patients.

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