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stu
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Post subject: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:40 pm |
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Top 10 net importing countries 2004 (MBD)
1. United States of America- 12,100,000
2. Japan- 5,300,000
3. China- 2,900,000
4. Germany- 2,400,000
5. South Korea- 2,200,000
6. France- 1,900,000
7. Italy- 1,700,000
8. Spain- 1,600,000
9. India- 1,300,000
10. Taiwan- 1,000,000
Top 10 net exporting countries 2004 (MBD)
1. Saudi Arabia- 8,730,000
2. Russia- 6,670,000
3. Norway- 2,910,000
4. Iran- 2,550,000
5. Venezuela- 2,360,000
6. United Arab Emirates- 2,330,000
7. Kuwait- 2,200,000
8. Nigeria- 2,190,000
9. Mexico- 1,180,000
10. Algeria- 1,680,000
Source: EIA (Energy Information Administration) 2004
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skateari
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:04 pm |
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What happened to Iraq being in the top 10 exporting country?
Or did they just drop Americas net import amount and add Iraq's exports to Americas "domestic use", being that we control Iraq??
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FoxV
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:53 pm |
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There is also a bit of hidden reality in those numbers. As the exporters start to deplete, they will still keep their own consumption up. So that means the over all depletion as far as the rest of the world is concerned will be much higher, and accelerating
Take Iran's official statement or 400,000bpd depletion per year. This gives them depletion rate of around 10% (4m bbl/d total production).
however they will just reduce their exports so if we assume 10% decline for the country this gives us exports of:
2007 - 2,150,000 (16% reduction, -400,000bpd)
2008 - 1,790,000 (17% reduction, -360,000bpd)
2009 - 1,420,000 (18% reduction, -324,000bpd)
2010 - 1,133,000 (20% reduction, -278,000bpd)
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2015 - Net importer.
This is also optomistic because as long as they are not nuked, their economy will grow very rapidly as they rake in cash. So if we give them a consumption growth of 3.5% (2004 industrial growth rate), they become net importers by 2013.
Something to consider when looking at Cambell's graph of oil production. Available oil supply looks considerably different depending on whether you look at it as an Exporter or an Importer (unless of course you have a binding delivery contract with a nuclear armed neighbour  )
(for my data I used the CIA factbook, and news article posted up front about Iran's depletion)
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malcomatic_51
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:33 pm |
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Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?
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pstarr
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:35 pm |
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malcomatic_51 wrote: Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries? It takes quite a lot of energy to build America's keyboards and powersupplies.
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Tanada
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:44 pm |
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malcomatic_51 wrote: Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries?
Among other reason South Korea has 48 million people and 14.9 million private cars and buiulds about 1 million cars per year.
France has a population of about 60 million and builds about 250,000 cars per year, I couldn't find a figure on private car ownership.
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kokoda
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:10 am |
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pstarr wrote: malcomatic_51 wrote: Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries? It takes quite a lot of energy to build America's keyboards and powersupplies.
Thats an interesting point ... I wonder what percentage of the oil imported into China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan etc is required to produce goods for the United States.
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Kingcoal
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:32 pm |
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kokoda wrote: pstarr wrote: malcomatic_51 wrote: Why does South Korea import so much oil? More than France? Almost as much as Germany? Surely it hasn't the level of car ownership or mobility of either of those countries? It takes quite a lot of energy to build America's keyboards and powersupplies. Thats an interesting point ... I wonder what percentage of the oil imported into China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan etc is required to produce goods for the United States.
Plastics are hydrocarbons (made from petroleum.)
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Tanada
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:50 am |
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Kingcoal wrote: Plastics are hydrocarbons (made from petroleum.)
While it is true that all plastics are hydrocarbons it is NOT true that all hydrocarbons come from Petroleum. Right now the vast bulk of them do because oil is cheap, but nylon was originally made from Mulberry pulp/sap and Casin plastics IIRC were made from whole milk. Eliminate oil and you might also take milk out of the Western diet, but would that be a really bad thing?
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sirrom
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:28 am |
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can somebody update this list for 2006 or 2007 please
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sirrom
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:03 am |
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where do you find this information?
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sirrom
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:16 am |
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top 20 oil importers
1 United States 13,150,000 2004
2 Japan 5,449,000 2001
3 China 3,181,000 2005
4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
5 Korea, South 2,263,000 2004
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
8 India 2,090,000 2005 est.
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
13 Canada 963,000 2004
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
16 Australia 530,800 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
18 Indonesia 424,000 2005 est.
19 Poland 413,700 2001
20 South Africa 398,000 2006
top 20 oil exporters
1 Saudi Arabia 7,920,000 2003
2 Russia 7,000,000 2005
3 Norway 3,466,000 2001
4 United Arab Emirates 2,500,000 2004 est.
5 Iran 2,500,000 2004 est.
6 Venezuela 2,100,000 2004 est.
7 Kuwait 1,970,000 2003
8 Mexico 1,863,000 2004
9 Canada 1,600,000 2004
10 Iraq 1,500,000 2006 est.
11 United Kingdom 1,498,000 2001
12 Netherlands 1,418,000 2001
13 Libya 1,340,000 2004
14 Algeria 1,127,000 2004 est.
15 United States 1,048,000 2004
16 Kazakhstan 1,000,000 2005 est.
17 Oman 721,000 2004
18 Korea, South 645,200 2004
19 Australia 523,400 2001
20 France 474,200 2005
source:cia factbook
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TorrKing
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:24 am |
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Tanada
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:01 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4991 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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sirrom wrote: top 20 oil importers
1 United States 13,150,000 2004 2 Japan 5,449,000 2001 3 China 3,181,000 2005 4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001 5 Korea, South 2,263,000 2004 6 Italy 2,158,000 2001 7 Germany 2,135,000 2003 8 India 2,090,000 2005 est. 9 France 1,890,000 2005 10 Spain 1,582,000 2001 11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003 12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001 13 Canada 963,000 2004 14 Turkey 616,500 2001 15 Sweden 553,100 2001 16 Australia 530,800 2001 17 Greece 468,300 2001 18 Indonesia 424,000 2005 est. 19 Poland 413,700 2001 20 South Africa 398,000 2006
source:cia factbook
Thats all well and good but when we do a side by side like this
1 United States 13,150,000 2004
2 Japan 5,449,000 2001
3 China 3,181,000 2005
4 Netherlands 2,284,000 2001
6 Italy 2,158,000 2001
7 Germany 2,135,000 2003
9 France 1,890,000 2005
10 Spain 1,582,000 2001
11 United Kingdom 1,084,000 2003
12 Belgium 1,042,000 2001
14 Turkey 616,500 2001
15 Sweden 553,100 2001
17 Greece 468,300 2001
19 Poland 413,700 2001
These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600
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sirrom
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries. Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:37 am |
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i guess we are just as addicted to oil as you guys then
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