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Pops
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:15 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 8178 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Personally I think All The Pretty Horses is more instructive.
_________________ The best buy to prepare for peak oil is buying less.
Make a plan and work it. -- Me
www.MyGrandKidsFarm.com
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danbloom
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:40 am |
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As a backgropunder to the CNN interview, here is what Iver wrote earlier, before the interview took place:
Quote: I'm talking to them tomorrow, so watch for it this week. I think I'll talk to them about the problem and what can be done about it by regular middle class people. Here's what I'll say, if they want: Peak Oil Visit Peak oil is the point when we have used up half of the world’s oil. It is also the point when we hit maximum production. From here on out we will get less, and the demand will increase. This will drive up the price. At some point it will be difficult for middle class people to afford to drive a regular car and heat their house exclusively with fossil fuel.
We saw this coming five years ago and made some changes to prepare for it. We now use half the fossil fuel. We save about $3000 a year from the changes we’ve made: 1) We traded both our cars for the most fuel efficient models we could get. My wife’s car gets 43 mpg, and my small truck gets 29 miles per gallon. 2) We insulated the basement and wrapped the hot air ducts. We replaced windows and caulked any place we felt a draft. We insulated the attic also. 3) We cut our electricity costs by getting a new high efficiency washer, energy efficient appliances and compact florescent bulbs. We switched to green power that has saved us money since it’s locked in for a three year contract. 4) Installed a small woodstove near the thermostat. The room the stove is in stays warm, and attracts every person and pet in the house, while the rest of the house stays cooler. 5) Bought a woodlot and have harvested it sustainably for over 7 years. We make maple syrup there as well. 6) Built the solar wood shed to hold and dry a cord of wood. 7) Installed solar hot water system, makes around 2/3rds of our hot water. Our teenager can take a long shower if he wants when the sun has been shining! Installed a solar panel that runs LED lights, charges cell phones and runs CD player. 9) We live in town and walk most places. There is a farmer’s market every week where we buy local produce. 10) We are getting a solar electric car that will get the equivalent of 250 miles per gallon. 11) We grow a garden that provides some of our veggies. 12) Our house is only around 1000 square feet, which is what the average American lived in up until the 1950’s. It is easier to heat a small space.
Al of these things are fun, and they save energy and money. Try them!
Peak oil is a problem that isn't going away. Better do something about it while you still have some time and money. Once energy gets expensive it's going to be hard to make changes.
That's what I am thinking of saying. I think the mention of peak oil will have them looking around for it, and they'll find out what it's all about.
I will try not to sound like a wacko, and to get the message to a wider audience. Maybe they will get it. Who knows? It may be just a minute or so.
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BigTex
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:00 am |
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Pops wrote: Personally I think All The Pretty Horses is more instructive.
How about "No Country For Old Men", except pretend the role of Anton Chigurh is played by peak oil.
[Paraphrasing the villain talking to civilization:]
"The values you've adopted, if they brought you to this point...of what use were they?"
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GeoJAP
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:10 am |
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I'm a total noob in this regard I guess, but what is a pressure cooker? Unless it's a BBQ grill then it is alien. 
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coastie
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:01 am |
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What is that little solar car he had? Looks interesting. Is that fellow a member here?
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Revi
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:03 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4255 Location: Maine
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A pressure cooker allows you to cook beans and other things much quicker and with less energy than a regular pot. I used to use one all the time when I lived in Guatemala.
Try the black turtle beans. Put in a garlic clove and some chili powder. Serve with corn tortillas, lettuce, tomatoes and sour cream (or crema fresca if you have it) Yum!
I like to use cast iron dutch ovens and cook New England beans outside too. Add lots of maple syrup and possibly rum. Soak the beans first. Try the Kennebec Bean company for beans.
Just another of my peak oil hobbies.
_________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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GeoJAP
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:38 am |
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coastie wrote: What is that little solar car he had? Looks interesting. Is that fellow a member here?
That is Revi. He has a website for his car.
Thanks Revi. I love rice and beans. I used to live with a hispanic family and they always had a big pot of beans read to eat all the time.
I've been to Guatemala twice myself, traveling overland by mini-bus and boat across the high country from Belize to Guatemala City. I saw you've been there. Amazing country.
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DomusAlbion
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:48 am |
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BigTex wrote: Pops wrote: Personally I think All The Pretty Horses is more instructive. How about "No Country For Old Men", except pretend the role of Anton Chigurh is played by peak oil. [Paraphrasing the villain talking to civilization:]"The values you've adopted, if they brought you to this point...of what use were they?"
Excellent BigTex, most excellent! And horrifying! 
_________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
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Revi
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:54 am |
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coastie wrote: What is that little solar car he had? Looks interesting. Is that fellow a member here?
Here's the website: www.sunnev.com
There's a youtube movie about making the prototype. The Sunnev solar electric car is the brainchild of a friend, Art Haines, who is featured in the movie.
We're taking it to the Solarfest this summer in Vermont.
_________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:58 am |
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Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 10 Location: grand rapids
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Great vid Revi. I just about fell out of my chair when they gave our group some free publicity. When they have the websites being shown on screen they actually click on our groups founder's video. His name is Aaron Wissner and is also a teacher here in Michigan. Too funny, he's going to get a real kick out of this one. His video was on CNN and he didn't even know it. Great house -
Eric
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:19 pm |
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Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:00 am Posts: 7175 Location: Boston Suburbs
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Revi wrote: We're taking it to the Solarfest this summer in Vermont.
Can you get it there under its own power?
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Revi
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:13 pm |
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Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4255 Location: Maine
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We're trailering it, but I guess you could get there if you went 30 miles a day and recharged at night. We are going to use it around town here and maybe once in a while go up to our woodlot which is 3 miles away.
It looks like it's almost time to have one of these not just as a curiosity. It will get about 30 miles to a charge and it only costs about 30 cents for a full charge plus what you get from the sun.
A penny a mile for transportation isn't bad.
_________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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coastie
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Post subject: Re: Interview with Maine man preparing for the future (via C Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:53 pm |
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What can it carry for a load?
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NoWorries
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Post subject: Financial Times: IEA "candid admission" of supply Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:10 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 137
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Found this nugget buried in the FT: "...the International Energy Agency, the developed world’s energy watchdog, warned that record high prices were needed to choke off demand in order to balance the oil market.
It is the IEA’s most candid admission to date that oil supply is struggling to catch up with Asian demand, ..."
link
This should be front-page news. Instead, everyone is focused, mantra-like, on "speculators....bubble, bubble..." No one is talking seriously about supply concerns except sites like this (which I think is very unfortunate).
Incidental note: I'm not a "doomer". I don't want to see economic hard times. I like my life as it is, and I want to live in an age of continued prosperity. But I also want to know what the hell is going on. And so far this topic has been confusing to a neophyte such as myself. The talking heads are talking past each other. I don't trust the Pollyannas, and I disdain the doomers.
I just want to know the truth.
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heartandseoul
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Post subject: Re: Financial Times: IEA "candid admission" of sup Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:17 pm |
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Quote: Incidental note: I'm not a "doomer". I don't want to see economic hard times. I like my life as it is, and I want to live in an age of continued prosperity. But I also want to know what the hell is going on. And so far this topic has been confusing to a neophyte such as myself. The talking heads are talking past each other. I don't trust the Pollyannas, and I disdain the doomers.
I just want to know the truth
Me too. I'm tired of trying to sort through the "news."
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