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Armageddon
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:18 am |
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Starvid wrote: Armageddon wrote: There is no way to grow a fiat based monetary system without growing your energy source. It's amazing how people do not understand this correlation. Of course you can. It's called efficiency.  Oil production fell by 14 % in 4 years...  It didn't even plateau...  And yet the economy kept growing. And even if it weren't, no one is saying we won't be able to use more energy in the future than we do now. It's the liquid fuels which are peaking.
keep dreaming. The party is over dude.
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Kingcoal
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:57 am |
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In the mid nineties, the Asian currency crisis caused a huge pull back in prices. Something like that is the only temporary salvation we can look forward too. I think the snowball has gotten a little too big this time, however.
_________________ "That's the problem with mercy, kid... It just ain't professional" - Fast Eddie, The Color of Money
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PeakingAroundtheCorner
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Post subject: Thom Hartman (Air America Radio) talking about PO on radio Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:29 pm |
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joewp
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Post subject: Re: Thom Hartman (Air America Radio) talking about PO on rad Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:38 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 1778 Location: Out in the streets of a runaway american dream
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He wrote a book The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight and was featured in the film Crude Impact, and he occasionally does get into it on the radio.
But that's on AirAmerica, only libruls and faggits listen to that trash. 
_________________ Joe P. United Political Debate
"Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted; only when the last fish is caught; only then will they realize that you cannot eat money." - Cree Indian Proverb
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PeakingAroundtheCorner
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Post subject: Re: Thom Hartman (Air America Radio) talking about PO on rad Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:16 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:00 am Posts: 528 Location: Cleburne, TX, USA
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joewp wrote: He wrote a book The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight and was featured in the film Crude Impact, and he occasionally does get into it on the radio. But that's on AirAmerica, only libruls and faggits listen to that trash. 
Thanks for the reminder  ! I had forgotten that he was in Crude Impact and I remember coming across the words "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight" but have not read it and didn't immediately associate it with this talk radio host. No wonder he seemed so familiar with the subject!
As for listeners of Air America, I'm the former of those two classes of listener, rather than the latter - not, in the words of the immortal Sienfeld, that there's anything wrong with that.
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Narz
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Post subject: Re: Thom Hartman (Air America Radio) talking about PO on rad Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:37 pm |
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Starvid
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:03 am |
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Armageddon wrote: keep dreaming. The party is over dude. I'm always so very impressed by your strong argumentative skills.
_________________ Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
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Armageddon
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:10 am |
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Starvid wrote: Armageddon wrote: keep dreaming. The party is over dude. I'm always so very impressed by your strong argumentative skills.
There is no need for an argument, it's too obvious. Only an ostridge couldn't see it.
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DantesPeak
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:36 pm |
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Congradulations Aaron for being way ahead of the crowd on PO.
_________________ It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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mattduke
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Post subject: Re: Bloomberg News: "Peak-Oil Theory" Vindicated Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:24 pm |
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With all due respect, the price measured in gold hasn't moved much:

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wisconsin_cur
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Post subject: WSJ: Analysts rewriting crude forcasts Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:58 pm |
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WSJQuote: A two-week string of record oil prices has left prognosticators at banks and brokerage firms struggling to keep pace. With crude futures trading firmly above $100 a barrel, oil economists are revising their forecasts -- up. Also On CNNQuote: (CNN) -- Gas prices rose more than 9 cents over the past two weeks, to a national average of $3.20 per gallon of self-serve regular, a survey said Sunday.
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Tanada
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Post subject: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, we Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:38 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4989 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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never pump more than right now"
I stumbled across an interview with David Andelman, exec ed at Forbes dot com at 7:25 PM EDT today. In the course of the four minute segment he predicted;
$300.00 bbl oil within a couple years
Oil production has peaked now
Intercontinental air travle will cease except for the very wealthy
likely to be replaced by passenger ships for the average person...
intracontenental air travle may also cease to exist and we will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses...
_________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
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vision-master
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Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:54 pm |
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Tanada
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Post subject: Re: David Andelman says "The peak oil people are right, Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:58 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4989 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
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vision-master wrote: No linky.......
Sorry I saw it live on cable TV half an hour ago while flipping channels and CNN.com/HLN/ doesn't have a transcript up yet.
_________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
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BigTex
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Post subject: Re: David Andelman says Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:21 pm |
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Tanada wrote: We will be back to rail or Conestoga wagon trips as oil production collapses... Was he serious? That will be pretty big news for the business traveller. The new Boston to New York shuttle: (Check out those high tech wheels. Nothing old-west about that!): 
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