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 Post subject: Re: THE Crude Oil Price Watch Thread
New postPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:07 am 
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I am shocked at how few of the doomers are still blowing the horn on here since there has never been a time since I started posting here five years ago when sudden doom has been closer at hand. I am hoping it is not because they are unable to do so.


Because it's not the doom we were expecting. Hyperinflation is the only sudden doom that awaits us (besides WWIII with Iran or NK which is nothing new for us to be paranoid about).

Hyperinflation != peak oil.


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Well if the so called "bond market vigilantes" don't rein in the governments excessive, prolifigate spending via pushing bond interest rates much higher, then maybe the dollar dropping every day, thus making imports such as oil prohibitively expensive, will do the trick.


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The only way oil will fall again is if the Federal Reserve and the U.S government quit monkeying around and reduce their deficit spending and balance the U.S budget. Otherwise, the dollar probably will continue to drop and oil will continue to rise.


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Again, just like clockwork, as the dollar index falls toward it lows, oil rises toward it high.


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Voice_du_More wrote:
I am shocked at how few of the doomers are still blowing the horn on here since there has never been a time since I started posting here five years ago when sudden doom has been closer at hand. I am hoping it is not because they are unable to do so.


Because it's not the doom we were expecting. Hyperinflation is the only sudden doom that awaits us (besides WWIII with Iran or NK which is nothing new for us to be paranoid about).

Hyperinflation != peak oil.


Well we need cheap oil to climb out of the jobs trouble we have in the US and that simply won't happen with China clocking 8% growth again. We still had a window to mitigate for at least this decade by spending that TARP on Pickens Plan but I think they all feel that paper money is capital. I do not see how you manufacture Great Recession II and hope it will save the dollar, the American worker can't handle it.

We now have no other choice than to face the long deep of Moriah.

Doom is a dish that is always served with secret sauce. But there is no doubt that this is peak playing itself out before us, in my mind at least. Every positive word in the MSM now is just window dressing on a view to a kill, nothing more.

I was talking to a fellow the other day and he said 'It has to turn around sooner or later' and also that the stock market had come back. I did not have the heart to tell him that the stock market is completely disconnected at this point from reality because he was so happy his 401k was back to where it was a couple years ago. I most certainly did not tell him that in fact things are likely to get much much worse in the second oil induced Great Recession which will probably arrive by summer 2010. He has already heard the story and he has a wife and kids.

Hang in there!


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 Post subject: Re: THE Crude Oil Price Watch Thread
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Get ready for triple-digit oil again soon
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Oil prices are already trading at around $80 per barrel when the red ink hasn’t even dried yet on the deepest postwar recession in the largest oil-consuming economy in the world. If oil is trading at this level when world oil demand has actually fallen this year, where do you think oil prices will be when the world’s energy appetite recovers?

Everyone, from OPEC to the International Energy Agency to the US Department of Energy, now expects that to happen by early next year.

If so, you can expect to see the return of triple-digit oil prices by next spring. And that means that the armada of empty container ships anchored off Southeast Asia are likely to stay exactly where they are.

In tomorrow’s economy, distance will cost money. Globalization was the product of cheap energy. Deglobalization is the economic face of triple-digit oil prices. The whole notion of sourcing supply from halfway around the world to save on labor costs will no longer make any commercial sense. From making our own steel to building our own furniture to growing our own food, the soaring cost of oil-fired transport will bring production back home to the local markets it once served.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/jeff-rubins-smaller-world/get-ready-for-triple-digit-oil-again-soon/article1343977/

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