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 Post subject: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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The Saudi comments below appear to have been removed from later versions of the article. How interesting.

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Agreements Are Elusive at Oil Talks in Saudi Arabia

JIDDA, Saudi Arabia — A hastily convened global energy summit meeting led by Saudi Arabia ended largely in disagreement on Sunday, with only a modest pledge of increased production by the Saudis and no resolution on what other practical steps should be taken to ease the crisis over soaring oil prices.

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"There is a very clear difference of opinion on key issues underpinning the high price of oil,” said Raad Alkadiri, an energy analyst at PFC Energy, a consulting firm, who was present in Jidda. “It’s not clear that anything you heard today is going to reverse sentiment. One thing is clear: You are not going to wake up tomorrow and find that oil prices have dropped 20 or 30 dollars.”

To some, the upshot of the meeting was clear.

“This means we will have $200 a barrel oil,” said Mohammed H. A. Abudawood, a prominent businessman and member of the Jeddah Economic Forum, after the speeches were finished and the delegates began drifting out of the room
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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Down the memory hole, it seems. I did a Google news search on the name Mohammed H. A. Abudawood and found the quote mentioned. When I went to the linked article, it had been cleansed, just as DantesPeak said.

It's interesting to observe the level of integrity in our media.

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Down the memory hole, it seems. I did a Google news search on the name Mohammed H. A. Abudawood and found the quote mentioned. When I went to the linked article, it had been cleansed, just as DantesPeak said.

It's interesting to observe the level of integrity in our media.

Zero can be a level.

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I tried to search this through some historical files, but newspapers have the ability to delete them.

This is about all the background I could find on Abudawood. Apparently he is respected in the field of Islamic finance:

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11/16/06 AME Info - Company news 04:20:15
AME Info - Company news

November 16, 2006

Sanad Sukuk Fund launched in Zurich

The world's first GCC oriented Sukuk fund, the Islamic counterpart of the conventional bond fund, was officially launched by the fund's chairman Sheikh Mohammed H. Abudawood, a respected Saudi-based businessmen during the International Islamic Finance Forum in Zurich, 13-16 November.

Sheikh Mohammed was pleased to explain the fund's rationale, saying it closed a wide gap in the Islamic financial industry. At the launch he said 'Sukuk as replacement of bonds are a very new development. They have never been available to a wide base of Muslim investors. These investors want both a quality investment product and an investment that meets their religious criteria. I am honored to contribute to this development, offer my guidance to it and will be proud to see it progressing and growing. Such a product was needed for long time.'

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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We could be days away from an oil panic. Nobody wants $200 tomorrow. Nothing can stop what is about to happen. TPTB may be able to stall it for a few more months. Don't complain but use this extra time wisely to finish your preparations.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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It might have failed in fact checking.

That is when some intern called Mr Mohammed H. A. Abudawood, he failed to confirm the quote. So the NYT was forced to withdraw it.

Perhaps he regretted saying it in front of a reporter, who knows.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Each day it gets harder and harder to envision a long slow decline.
We are on the road to a rapid crash. IMHO

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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rethin wrote:
It might have failed in fact checking.

That is when some intern called Mr Mohammed H. A. Abudawood, he failed to confirm the quote. So the NYT was forced to withdraw it.

Perhaps he regretted saying it in front of a reporter, who knows.


I'd bet on the regret idea.

The phrase “This means we will have $200 a barrel oil,” has been immortalized on at least 2 web sites now, including this one. (Other is http://www.prometheus6.org/node/21391 )

Google news cache shows it at NY Times article but of course it's changed now.

Reprinted in entirety in this place:

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Does this Mr. "Mohammed H. A. Abudawood, a prominent businessman and member of the Jeddah Economic Forum." even amount to anything significant?

I'm sure there's another "prominent businessman" somewhere else in Saudi Arabia who thinks the price of oil will tank.

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Does this Mr. "Mohammed H. A. Abudawood, a prominent businessman and member of the Jeddah Economic Forum." even amount to anything significant?

I'm sure there's another "prominent businessman" somewhere else in Saudi Arabia who thinks the price of oil will tank.

Who?!


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What a great photo, the pitiful white guys begging the mighty prince for life giving oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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What a great photo, the pitiful white guys begging the mighty prince for life giving oil.


That was the photo op. In private the mighty prince was begging the white guys not to take their military support away from his government.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Far out. Strike ref NYTimes crudeprice next tag batch killref.

Oil prices rise in Asian trading after Jeddah summit

And elsewhere. NYMEX at 136.42. Wonder what this bit of history rewriting will do if word gets out?

Get a load of what the Executive branch has to say:

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White House spokesman Tony Fratto acknowledged Thursday that speculators may be adding to rising prices, but said that Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman would make the case Sunday that speculators weren’t at the root of record prices.

There’s "absolutely no denying that the overall source of price increase in oil globally, and gasoline here at home, is a function of supply and demand. That’s the overwhelming reason; that’s the core reason," Fratto said. "There could be other factors in there. No one is saying there aren’t other factors that could have an impact. But the largest and most significant reason is supply and demand."

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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Predicts $200 Oil at Jeddah Meeting: NY Times
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Far out. Strike ref NYTimes crudeprice next tag batch killref.

Oil prices rise in Asian trading after Jeddah summit

And elsewhere. NYMEX at 136.42. Wonder what this bit of history rewriting will do if word gets out?

Get a load of what the Executive branch has to say:

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White House spokesman Tony Fratto acknowledged Thursday that speculators may be adding to rising prices, but said that Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman would make the case Sunday that speculators weren’t at the root of record prices.

There’s "absolutely no denying that the overall source of price increase in oil globally, and gasoline here at home, is a function of supply and demand. That’s the overwhelming reason; that’s the core reason," Fratto said. "There could be other factors in there. No one is saying there aren’t other factors that could have an impact. But the largest and most significant reason is supply and demand."
Gordon Brown was singing the same hyme yesterday as well. It seems that the UK\ USA governments are now saying oil prices are due to insufficient supply. Either a ploy to force the oil producers to pump more *sniggers* or they have bought into the idea that there is not enough new oil coming online in the short term.

Bush and Brown are leaders of governments who were major oil producers that have peaked and declined. How hard can it be for them and there back staff to get the idea that it is also capable of happening to the Saudi's?


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Gordon brown asking OPEC to invest in nuclear? Does that include Iran? :?:


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