Yeah, and you're not being truthful there either. The stark incident is specifically listed because OBL was indited by a jury about it. The wanted poster clearly mentions that he's also wanted as a suspect in "other terrorist attacks throughout the world". Undoubtedly 911 is one of those. You're taking a true statement "OBL has never been indited by a jury for 911" and because it's not flashy enough for you, you're trying to twist it into a lie "OBL is not wanted by the US government."

I'm sorry, but when people start trying to twist the truth and inflate their story to make it read better, it makes me think they're probably trying to sell me a load of crap.

Nope - they got the other details right.

You are crazed to believe you government could not execute 2,979 people.

Well they did ...get over it.

And to boot here is your main man BUUUUUUUUShit...saying what I have said...

Click here SPG...your man awaits...

Strawman.



The fact that the government is capable of all sorts of atrocities is not an excuse for prevarication.


Yes. Quite a disturbing video. There are many awful things you could say about it. "OBL is not wanted by the US government." is not one of them.

it is a disturbing video and a load of bollocks as well and even if it was absolutely true, what ya going to do?

we're all dead anyway, we just don't know it yet but I can guarantee that over 8 billion people will die before 2099 and of those some will go through terrible things, some of which will actually happen.

Well go ask Bush why he made that statement.

Minor edit.

Bush has never said, nor has anyone else in a position of authority that OBL is not wanted by the US government. In deed he has been right at the top of the FBI Most Wanted list for neigh on a decade now.

Go look at the FBI web site.

OBL is not wanted by our gobbermint for any crimes associated with 911.

Bush said he has no intention of capturing OBL.

Really - what more do you want.

And if you can't see that this is the position of our gobbermint...

THERE IS NO WAY ON THE PLANET I BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB OR WHATEVER CLEVER PHRASES YOU WANT TO USE.

You are riding the fence and are afraid.

That is ok SPG - there are more of you people than me.

You fit right in.

That's not true, and I just explained to you why it's not true.



No. He said he wasn't concerned with OBL. You are twisting the truth. Twisting the truth doesn't help your cause.

It's ok SPG.

Really.

It's ok.

Your gobbermint loves you and will take care of you.

No rocc. Lying about the government doesn't make it any more evil.

OK, if Bush is/was not concerned with OBL then why did he take us to war in Afghanistan ? I thought the purpose of invading Taliban Afghanistan was to get OBL. So he comes out and says he is not concerned with OBL ???? So what other concerns did he have ? Other than OBL ? Did he take us to war for fun ?

In your opinion, why did we go to war with Taliban Afghanistan ?

Consensi said:



Because they thought the Caspian had a lot of oil in it, and they needed a pipeline to get it out with, and Afghanistan was about the only route that they could take.

But on the Twin Towers, if anyone thinks that an airplane flew into those towers and knocked them down, take every thing that you know about structural engineering and write it on the back of a postage stamp, with a crayon - and send it to me!

I’ll edit it with a Magic Marker!

First off, I think that what politicians say, they say in order to spin things. Their motives generally not discernible from their direct statements. So all I make of his statement that he's "not concerned" is that he considered it for whatever reason useful to act unconcerned at that moment.

So that didn't answer your question. Why do I think Bush invaded Afghanistan? First off, I think you have to take a step back and understand America in a broader historical context. America has always defined itself as a nation in an epic battle with evil. For most of it's history, that was a battle to tame nature and conquer the savages. It was manifest destiny. With the wounded knee massacre in 1890, the frontier closed, and we found ourselves ideologically adrift for a number of years. In the 1920's a new ideological enemy was devised - communism. That worked well until the 1990's. With the collapse of the USSR, America has again found itself adrift ideologically. Starting even before 911, a lot of the political elites were trying to introduce us to a new epic enemy, "terrorism", particularly Islamic extremist terrorism. Prior to 911, Bush was a pretty unpopular guy. He'd come to power on the shady Supreme Court decision about not counting Florida. Then 911 happened. Whether Al Queda came up with the idea on their own or CIA sponsored agent provocateurs put them up to it, I don't know. Anyway 911 happened. Clearly Bush was going to cash in on it, and he was going to cash in by selling this new epic paradigm of America vs. terrorism with him as our rallying point. Clearly somebody was getting invaded. So who do you invade? The hijackers were all Saudi nationals. We're obviously not going to invade Saudi Arabia. Afghanistan had been home to Al Queda since the CIA got them going back in the 80's, so it was a logical choice. It gave the added benefit of menacing Iran and the Caspian basin both of which have tumultuous politics and lots of oil.

Did Bush want to catch OBL? I don't know. There are stories of plane loads of Al Queda types being given free passage to flee Afghanistan by the US military as it was moving in. They seem fairly credible to me. It's very possible that the US specifically avoided capturing them either because they would have had some unpleasant things to say about what really happened on 911 or because it works better for the endless GWOT if we don't catch them.