Just wanted to add one vote against the extreme paranoid thoughts that people are having. Sure peak oil is going to cause some problems but all this illuminati stuff and killing 90% of the population is totally bogus.

We just need to change the way we live our own lives and others will follow. I bought a Prius when gas was getting more expensive and others did the same after they asked me the gas mileage on my car. I'm moving to a city where I don't need to drive at all because of videos of others I've seen doing the same thing. People are telecommuting to work more often. The world IS changing and once we adjust to a world without oil, people won't be so afraid that they invent these preposterous conspiracy theories.

Have you read WR Catton's book Overshoot?

Well, given what we know about the currently brewing catastrophe in Mexico, I kind of assumed the first wave of occupants would be from there.

Yup. That's exactly why they're being built... or in case the locals get a bit restless ... or in case a major city or two goes away .... it's always prudent to have a Plan B.

How they going to round up all the guns in the USA? Ain't going to happen. Try buy 1,000 rounds of ammo on-line. That's the hottest seller right now. Large quanities.[/quote]

Looks like your gvmnt have been training your troops ready for gun confiscation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hEFlaZdDos

So, there really are folks out there who swallowed the 911 Commission Report, hook, line, and sinker. Despite all the glaring inconsistencies and ludicrousness.

Did you know they found the passport of one of the hijackers on the street near the collapsed towers. Yep, it just flew out of his pocket, through the explosive flames, out the other side of the tower, floated around for twenty or so minutes then settled in the rubble. LOL.....

Yeah - and yet WTC7 is pulverized because of a bic lighter.

It is too easy to identify the brain dead...just ask how they think Building 7 was pulverized...if the even know it was pulverized.

Then ask them if OBL was responsible for 911.

According to the FBI OBL is not wanted by the US Gobbermint for any crimes associated with 911...fact Bush said he does not give OBL much thought at all.

You guys are a riot. FEMA is helping the Russians prepare to spray Americans with nerve gas? I don't know how you can listen to this stuff without laughing your ass off. The video is of course loaded with the favorite truther verbal tactic...the baseless sinister inuendo question. "Are these tanks part of operation gardenplot?" Why? Because they're on a train. And they're being moved around the country. That verbal tactic is great though, because whenever someone calls you on it, you can claim you were just asking a question. Sling mud and run.

Gardenplot is a real deal and it's scary. When you start deciding that every military unit you see is part of it, you really need to be taking some medicine.

You guys are a riot. FEMA is helping the Russians prepare to spray Americans with nerve gas?
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Maybe I missed something in the video, but I thought FEMA were using Russian equipment, i.e chemical trucks imported from Germany, not "Russians".

Hmmm...interesting coming from a "doctor"...

Riddle me this doc...how does one differentiate between the good guys and bad?

If you cannot - then all should be treated as bad.

OK...if you're in the middle of an LA riot, and there's been several days of looting and general mayhem, and you see Marines arresting people...they might be part of operation Gardenplot. If you're participating in a big riot in Seattle with several thousand other people trying to prevent the World Trade Organization from meeting, and you see Army helicopters flying around taking FLIR imagery...they're probably part of operation gardenplot. If you're at a railroad crossing in Indiana and you see a train load of tanks go by and nothing else interesting is going on....probably not part of operation gardenplot.


You might want to try watching it again. They made a big deal about the German troops training with the Americans in Kentucky, then they start ranting about Russian chemical weapons trucks at a US Government facility. Those, BTW, were pretty obviously water trucks. The "Government facility" part of it they based on a sign saying it's a US customs bonded facility. For more on what a US customs bonded facility is, read this: link

That doesn't seem impossible to me. I'm not an expert or anything, but know that explosions throw debris...

What's the alternative explanation?

This is actually quite tame compared to some of the crazy stuff from other posters:
Lorenzo - says the earth can sustain a population of 40 billion people
yesplease - thinks he can get an electric car only $7,000 with a 100 mile range.
Graeme - well lets just say this person needs NO introduction

I wasn't aware he wasn't.... He admitted it, didn't he?

What is it that I've missed?

Someone on a video tape the Americans 'found' in Afghanistan admitted it. Problem is, he doesn't actually look all that much like OBL.