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Ugo Bardi: A Religion Called Economy



Published also in Italian in “Effetto Cassandra” 

A post by Michele Migliorino

The idea that religions are giving way to a more advanced human level of existence is part of common knowledge. Science and technology are emancipating humankind from mythical and religious discourses under the effect of the belief that only rationality should guide us. Reason has replaced the old God.

Nietzsche, more than a century ago, warned that God was dead and that we had killed him. Nowadays a spectre wanders in our societies: it is nihilism, a consequence of God’s death. What is it? According to Nietzsche, it consists in the “devaluation of all values,” including the sacred ones on which the Western civilization was founded.

“What I relate is the history of the next two centuries. I describe what is coming, what can no longer come differently: the advent of nihilism.  This history can be related even now; for necessity itself is at work here.  This future speaks even now in a hundred signs, this destiny announces itself everywhere; for this music of the future all ears are cocked even now.  For some time now, our whole European culture has been moving as toward a catastrophe, with a tortured tension that is growing from decade to decade: restlessly, violently, headlong, like a river that wants to reach the end, that no longer reflects, that is afraid to reflect”. (Nietzsche, Unpublished notes, 1887-1888)

It is not necessary for a God to be transcendent. A consequence of the secularization of society is a new, immanent, God: it is now called “Economy”. No longer “intra-world ascesis” (Max Weber) and will of salvation; oikonomos (in greek, “home care”) has become the only concern of humans. This necessity had been growing over the centuries, starting already with the Renaissance when the growth of global commerce started the process that would lead, today, to a planetary commercial machine generating billions or even trillions of monetary, computerized transactions every second.

Why is the economy a God? Because it has taken the place of the old values and because we use it to fill the gap left by nihilism. Very simply, nihilism is the result of the outdating of a fundamental value: the afterlife. We are now in the unconscious condition of no longer finding an existential sense because for two millennia (maybe a lot more) we believed that there wasn’t a sense in this life. That implied the existence of an “original copy” of our existence somewhere else, in a transcendent world. From Plato to Catholicism, this is the fundamental matrix we have to deal with when we talk about “our culture”.

The extraordinary fact of our situation is that we do not want to “see” what we have done! This is why we are so troubled and restless: we can’t accept that there is nothing beyond death! Our historical condition rather makes us committed to understanding the meaning of a finite mortal existence. But, today, we are sure that there is no sense in our earthly life and therefore that is better grab every moment of this ephemeral existence; we cannot afford to lose any opportunity because “any chance you don’t take is lost forever.”

Economy is this “running” in an infernal circle reminding Dante’s “Comedy.” It is an infinite growth in a finite world free from any limit which could hinder it. Since there is no sense in anything, “everything is allowed” (Dostojevski) and there will never be consequences. No transcendent God is judging us in terms of good and bad deeds.

However, if there is no sense in anything, wouldn’t it be better to end it all here and now? Wouldn’t it be a better form of forward-thinking?

Never to be born at all is best for mortal men, and if born to pass as soon as may be the gates of Hades. (Hesiod)

Economy acts as a big “repression.” It is just like we were producing the meaning itself by means of our everyday activities. Indeed, the busier we are, the more life seems to have sense. When we are moving – just as a kind of merchandise – we forget about that “deep cosmic noise”, of that lack that sometimes nags us asking: what is the meaning of all this?

Risultati immagini per città movimento

No matter how bad things become, only a few people will be ready to accept that economy it is not a good thing. We believe in the Economy, we do not discuss its existence, precisely as a religion does with God. Instead of an afterlife, we have a Money-God allowing us to do everything we want, or at least this is what we believe. Everything consists of believing in something – this is why is difficult to understand the term “religion” in its wider meaning.

But why Economy is not a good thing? Because it is not possible to create prosperity for all. Wealth is a relative term, it is something that can belong only to a few. I can be rich only if you are poor; wealth is a relation: there has to be poverty in order to have wealth.

You can see this easily when considering the inequality issue. Although the gap between the rich and the poor continues to grow decade after decade, the lifestyle of poor people has not really worsened. A success of Capitalism? Yes, sure. Here, our religion protects us from heresies such as the idea that we should reform the economic system, redistribute wealth, supervise big capital, control corporations! In this way, we save the world. So, we have to promote economic growth in Africa! And this justifies wars for exporting democracy. Only with democracy, the African governments will ensure that the Africans, too, will have access to wealth. 

You can see how the Economy religion destroys everything: forest, seas, living species, ourselves and our infinite cultures existing over the whole planet. By now, realism would tell us that it is time to throw the Economy GOd into the wastebasket history and try to create a society which won’t imply such a despicable waste of energy and resources. It seems that it is time to become profane toward this religion. Yet, that doesn’t seem to be happening.

The “crowd phenomenon” is hard to overcome because it is the very mechanism itself that generates our cultural evolution (according to Renè Girard). We are afraid of losing our ownership and we are afraid of each other. It is difficult to us to go against the others. It is extremely hard to reject what makes us living: The Economy-God.

But what if what makes us today prosperous is what will make us miserable tomorrow?

Cassandra’s legacy by Ugo Bardi

63 Comments on "Ugo Bardi: A Religion Called Economy"

  1. Newfie on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 12:06 pm 

    If God is dead someone ought to tell the Muslims and the Roman Catholics.

  2. Davy on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 1:06 pm 

    World was doing fine until the Eurotards perfected religion and economy which became two deadly forces in combination. Combine wants with the faith of Devine manifest destiny and you have one potent motivator. This European perfection has resulted in the destruction of the planetary system. BTW America = Europe for all you anti-Americans bias radar folks. There is no hope for what was only what will be in a greatly altered world. The end or the beginning is ahead of something new, old, or a hybrid. It is also possible this will be The End. Overpopulation combined with the forcing of the global carbon system is something more potent than economy and religion. IOW, we are not going to pray and buy our way out of this shit storm we perfected.

  3. sunweb on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 2:42 pm 

    We are slowly technogizing ourselves into extinction. Technology is seductive. Is it the power? Is it the comfort? Or is it some internal particularly human attribute that drives it? Technology surrounds us and becomes part of our story and myths. Technology tantalizes the human mind to make, combine, invent. There are always unintended consequences with technology. It effects how we experience the world in time and space. It affects how we feel the world. If all the externalities were included in the prices and cost to nature, we would be very, very wary of technology.

    I think we have moved from technology in the service of religion (pyramids and gothic cathedrals) to religion and culture in the service of technology. It isn’t a deity that will save humanity but in the eyes of many – it will be technology.

    We will do more of the same, business as usual until there are no more holes in the ground to dig, no more water above and below to contaminate, no humans to wage slave, no other lifeforms to eliminate. Yes, we are building Trojan horses in our hearts, minds and spirits. It will be elitist and entitlement and hubris – it will end with both a bang and a whimper.

  4. ________ on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 4:02 pm 

    Human dependency on tech./tools and society is a product of genetic degeneration which causes more degeneration of fitness. In a few generations humans will be so weak, ugly and stupid they will go extinct or revert to some chimp like creatures

  5. Shortend on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 4:33 pm 

    Remember Barry Commoner’s comment regarding the consumer economy was so massively in our face, it is easily overlooked.
    Folks don’t realize how temporary our way of life really is until it ends.
    Nothing is forever.

  6. Makati1 on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 5:28 pm 

    Were the oily FF industry to collapse today, the world would have a chance to repair the damage. World repair, not humanity. These articles are all written from the 1st world perspective, not a world perspective, as if the other 5+ billion don’t exist.

    Who will miss Capitalism? Not the 5+ billion. Who will suffer the most when it does collapse? Not the 5+ billion. Who will still have the skills to survive? The 5+ billion.

    Will they suffer. Some, but most will survive. Will some of them die early? Yes, life expectancy will shorten. That is to be expected. Does “quantity” of life mean more than “quality”? Only if you are afraid of dying. What is 80+ years, if you live all them in debt slavery to a bank or government like most in the 1st world? That is not living. That is existing.

    BTW: Insert “GREED” in the place of “economy” in the article and you will have a better picture of today’s world.

  7. Davy on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 5:48 pm 

    “Were the oily FF industry to collapse today, the world would have a chance to repair the damage.”
    Well, mad kat, maybe nature but not humans. What naiveté, Humans including the 5BIL you talk about are all deeply dependent on fossil fuels. You just don’t see it because of your fantasy view of the world.

    Who will miss Capitalism? Not the 5+ billion. Who will suffer the most when it does collapse? Not the 5+ billion. Who will still have the skills to survive? The 5+ billion.
    5BIL?, who are the 5BIL and where are they mad kat? Capitalism is globalism and globalism is what is keeping 7BIL people alive. You are again showing your naiveté. Why do you think China is so fearful of a down turn mad kat? China knows that it cannot have serious social turmoil or the mess may be beyond control. The same is true elsewhere in the west. We are all in overshoot.

    “BTW: Insert “GREED” in the place of “economy” in the article and you will have a better picture of today’s world.”
    OK, so what should be put in instead of greed and economy? I guess you think the pastoral beautiful and noble subsistence farmers of Asia is what is good and the west is bad with greed. Sure mad kat and why is Asia so greedy and busy westernizing?

  8. Sissyfuss on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 6:53 pm 

    Humans have to believe in something outside of themselves, a deity or system that will clarify and explain the mystery of this universe. But our gods are anchored in our self reflection and our systems lead us to overshoot and the destruction of our lifegiving ecosphere. If we survive as a species it will be because we finally come to the realization that the Earth is truly our Mother and needs to be loved and respected.

  9. Davy on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 7:04 pm 

    Siss, I doubt we can come to know our mother in nature as moderns and at our population levels. It has been proven that at low densities in primitive conditions we behave like you mentioned and we did it naturally without trying.

  10. shortonoil on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 7:35 pm 

    This techno wizardry we call modern civilization has been around for 0.02% of the history of modern man. If Bardi thinks that it is going to last long enough to get rid of God, he’s stumbled, and fallen into a time warp. He is comparing a flash in the pan to eternity, and then tries to provide an explanation. Tunnel vision!

  11. Boat on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 7:44 pm 

    You doomotards are weak and looking for something to blame. You don’t need God to live or die. Suck it up and take it like a man.

  12. Sissyfuss on Sun, 3rd Dec 2017 9:39 pm 

    Davy, I mentioned survival of the species but certainly not in quantity.

  13. Revi on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 9:48 am 

    God is dead, unless you actually need a belief in a higher power in order to continue being alive…

  14. Revi on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 9:49 am 

    Great article, as usual Ugo!

  15. joe on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 10:50 am 

    Man, some people here think that the ‘suffering’ will be long and slow like the walking dead or somthing, as if even that level of existence is possible, thats stupid. For maybe 50% of the world today peak oil will pass like a fat. Why? They never benefitted from oil (yes, most of humanity is still dirt poor), its only the so called ‘developed’ world that will feel the pain, good news though, if/when Iran and Saudi Arabia start mining the hormuz straights and obliterate each others oil we will find out just how quick and easy it is that millions and billions can die. Without oil or food, western society will die off in months, starting with the weak and sick in hospital, then the old due to lack of care, then as the nation’s split and sub split the children will become the victims of the strong. 7 billion can become a few million in 1-2 months depending on the type of war that will break out. But for Somali goat herders and Siberian reindeer tribes, engines are those things that maybe they saw passing by once. Peak oil is a first world problem, not a third world one.

  16. Dredd on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 11:04 am 

    A Religion Called Economy

    The religion of pirates (Banker Jekyll Will Hyde Your Money – 13).

  17. dave thompson on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 11:36 am 

    The problems we face in an economic sense were all spelled out by the club of roam back in the seventies.

  18. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 12:06 pm 

    Joe, you forget why we have 7BIL people. It was the
    green revolution driven by oil. It is natural to think poor people don’t need oil until you realize how many eat today becuase of oil and will starve without it. I agree with you on the rest of all that oil driven horseshit we call consumerism but food is s different story. Subsistence farming covers only a portion of the global population and even subsistence farming is subsidized by oil in some ways as is the other aspects of living these poor enjoy. Think of the cloths they wear. Think of the stuff they use to do things with.

  19. Boat on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 1:33 pm 


    You describe the third world as goat herders and reindeer tribes. Think instead third world China, India, Philippines, Nigeria etc. These are densely areas. These areas will be in much more trouble than say N America which is primarily less populated and energy independent.

  20. Roger on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 3:15 pm 

    “Nietzsche, more than a century ago, warned that God was dead and that we had killed him. Nowadays a spectre wanders in our societies: it is nihilism, a consequence of God’s death. What is it? According to Nietzsche, it consists in the “devaluation of all values,” including the sacred ones on which the Western civilization was founded.”

    If you want to know where the moronic philosophies of Nietzsche lead, take a hard look at Hitler’s Germany (he was Hitler’s favorite philosopher).

    Me on the other hand, I like Ike and FDR … those boys won!! Hurray for the good guys.

    FDR’s prayer prior to D-day:

    My Fellow Americans:

    Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.

    And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:

    Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

    Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.

    They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.

    They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest—until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men’s souls will be shaken with the violence of war.

    For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

    Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

    And for us at home—fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them—help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

    Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.

    Give us strength, too—strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.

    And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.

    And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment—let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

    With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace—a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.

    Thy will be done, Almighty God.


  21. Roger on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 3:25 pm 

    Here’s Ike’s message … note the call for prayer at the end:

    Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!

    You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

    Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle-hardened. He will fight savagely.

    But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war and placed at our disposal great reserves of fighting men. The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to Victory!

    I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than a full Victory!

    Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.

    Dwight D. Eisenhower

  22. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 3:27 pm 

    Roger, flag waiving on this board will makes you look ridiculous. The US has little to be proud of especially its past wars. Why not sober up and realize the ship is sinking. This includes your exceptional USA.

  23. Roger on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 3:31 pm 

    Davy, I’m quite proud of what America and our allies accomplished in WWII. You should be too.

  24. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 3:42 pm 

    Roger, you can’t believe the official version of the war. While I don’t go as far as revisionist and conspiracy theorist here I realize many bad actions were never allowed to be part of the MS version of that war. Besides we have bigger fish to fry these days like global collapse. That war was long ago in a different time.

  25. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:03 pm 

    I’m pleasantly surprised, Davy.

  26. Boat on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:17 pm 


    Name any war where any side didn’t commit atrocities. That is the nature of humans caught up in events beyond their control. Going to war for whatever reason is a separate subject.

  27. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:18 pm 

    And there we have mass murder apologist Roger, another exceptionalist fool:

    “Davy, I’m quite proud of what America and our allies accomplished in WWII. You should be too.”

    How to get rid of cancer.

    Tell me, Roger, how many US cities did Germany bomb? How many American women did the Gernans rape?

    The war was a US setup from the beginning:

    Here (((Bullitt))), the jewish architect of WW2, five months before the war begins, already gloats about how the Germans, including Davy’s ancestors, are going to be slaughtered:

    Chamberlain, the most decent guy in the entire drama, with Hitler as a good second, about who wanted this war:

    Here US Nuremberg judge Jackson, having to admit that the Germans were completely innocent:

    Here an American source about what really happened in the runup to the war:

    The truth will be handed ovet to you after the end of WW3, on a big screen, in a movie not made in Hollywood.

    Roger boy, the world is about to deal with fools like you.

  28. Boat on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:22 pm 


    You gonna add stone throwing sling shots to your windmills? Go check out the rail gun in development. Pretty cool.

  29. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:22 pm 

    Name any war where any side didn’t commit atrocities. That is the nature of humans caught up in events beyond their control. Going to war for whatever reason is a separate subject.”

    War is war. The point is: who wanted the war?

    Global GDP 1941

    USA 29%
    USSR 13%
    British Empire 11%
    France 5%

    Germany 11%
    Japan 6%
    Italy 5%

    58% vs 22%

    See a pattern here?

  30. Boat on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 4:25 pm 


    You forget the most important lesson in history. The winners write the history. The losers whine and make up shyt.

  31. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 5:09 pm 

    You forget the most important lesson in history. The winners write the history. The losers whine and make up shyt.

    You are a major league fool, boat. Please don’t take it personally.

    The victors write the history to their advantage and the losers weep.

    But slowly, dear American boat, the good fortunes are no longer with you and you will be forced to face the truth once you are down. See me as a messenger of what is about to haunt you. Davy can claim all he want that WW2 is in a distant past, but he won’t be left off the hook that easy. And neither is my (Dutch) government, that actually really unleashed WW2, by giving permission to the British and French to attack Germany via Holland, after having given in to pressure to that effect. When the French troops were advancing through Belgium along the coast, heading North, to attack Germany via the Zeeland and Brabant provinces, the Germans knew, to their horror, that they could not escape all out war. The French were heading towards the German industrial Ruhr-area in order to destroy it. What should the Germans have done? They invaded Holland, Belgium and France and after 6 weeks they were finished. And what did Hitler do next? Offer a peace proposal (group hug, Germany paying damages to the Dutch and that was it). But Churchill knew that Roosevelt and Stalin were on his side and refused.

    Forget about the “Miracle of Dunkirk”, there never was none. Hitler let the British escape to avoid excessive bloodshed. Forget this ridiculous 2017 propaganda movie:

  32. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 5:21 pm 

    Dutchy, your Nazi’s were the worst of humanity. It is amazing you dismiss methodical industrialized murder with fake revisionist history that makes your Nazi’s look like the aggrieved.

  33. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 6:16 pm

    “ It is amazing you dismiss methodical industrialized murder ”

    Yeah, you mean these gas chambers?

    I’ll ask the deadly question of US revisionist Bradley Smith: “gave me the name and proof of a single person killed in a gas chamber.

    You won’t, because you can’t.

    Here is what really happened:

    The hoax was invented to create the moral pretext for the destruction of Germany.

  34. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 6:24 pm

    It’s official: (((Bloomboig))) declares the NWO=US global empire dead.

  35. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 6:38 pm 

    regurgitate vomit

  36. Apneaman on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 6:38 pm 

    clog. I don’t care. Europe was in ruin and Canada went on a building and mass consuming spree and drank beer every night to go with our steaks. Y’all were on rations and picking up blown up building and shit while our soldiers occupied your lands and fucked your Frauleins.

    HA! no wonder you have been furious every fucking day of you 7 + decades.

    Make up all the shit you like. Throw up 378 angry history rewriting links a day. It won’t change a thing old loser.

    Y’all got yur asses whipped reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good. Except for you dutch sub-germans who cowered in the corner for the 2 world defining world wars.

    Seriously, no real man will ever take cowards seriously nor have any respect.

    Listen to soldiers who fought in Afghanistan or Vietnam or WWII or wherever there was a big fight. They might hate them as the enemy, but they do respect them.

    I can understand, in some situations, how remaining neutral may seem like the best option at the time (fear) and that’s fine. It explains, but you still do not get the respect that comes with fighting. Always been that way and always will.

    You did not fight and the Canadians liberated the Netherlands in WWII and your country thanks Canada with a yearly commemoration to this day and will remain grateful long after you are gone.

    These are facts.

  37. Makati1 on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 7:15 pm 

    Cloggie, you will never get past the Jewish Hollywood version of WW2 with most Americans. The brainwashing is too successful. Both World Wars were about $$$$ as were all the US military adventures after. With the US it is ALWAYS about $$$$. That is why I hope it crashes and burns before it can start WW3.

    I found these to be of value:

    “Soviet Storm: WW2 in the East – Operation Barbarossa (1 of 18)”

    “Battlefield ” (WW2)

    ‘Japan’s War in Colour (Complete Documentary)”

    “The Great War Episode 1 On the idle hill of summer” (1 of 26) WW1

    A different view than that of Hollywood.

  38. onlooker on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 7:31 pm
    Gas Chamber Expert Debunks The Holocaust In Less Than Six Minutes

  39. Davy on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 7:36 pm 


  40. MASTERMIND on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 8:17 pm 

    Jesus Holocaust denial now on this site…What a bunch of clowns who are jealous of the Jews because of their high intelligence. Israel is the only free democracy in the entire middle east..Anyone is free to live or come and visit Israel..But Jews are not allowed to visit or live in Muslim countries.

  41. Boat on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 8:46 pm 

    The Clog hates the Jews, blacks and Muslims. Blacks rule world athletics. What would sports do without basketball, football and baseball. It would be smarter to neuter the haters.

  42. Apneaman on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 9:58 pm 


    If what the angry Jew haters say is all true then their anger is just a mask for their envy and embarrassment that a paltry 15 million have bested them at every turn.

    If it’s rue then they own the world, while you eat crow and spend a lifetime bitching about.

    Funny thing is that most of these sub humans like clog spout racial superiority theories all damn day.

    If racial superiority is true then what greater proof is there that the Jews are #1 then they have made a mockery of you with a measly 15 million of them?

    What is you excuse for being such losers?

    You should not feel bad that you are racially inferior. It’s just nature and at least they let guys like clog work in their banks.

    If it’s survival of the fittest then who could possible more fit than the Jews. Doesn’t the cream always rise to the top?

    When fascists losers like clog run the world (never happen) then they can say they are the best. For now, the endless whining and excuse making will continue. LOSERS. A 12 year Rich will be the be the best they could ever manage. Don’t forget that only happened because the Jews dropped their guard. Won’t happen again.

    I don’t believe in racial superiority. Why would I want to share my credit with a race? It’s not because, I’m white, it’s because I’m me. My family genes plus the advantageous of my particulate time and place I was born in.

    As far as I’m concerned theses racial theorists are trying to ride the coattails of others. Notice how the overwhelming majority of them are losers with no significant achievements of their own? Hitler did not posses the natural ability to be a great artist so he took it out on others by playing upon other sore losers fears and sour grapes.

  43. GregT on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 10:34 pm 

    “What would sports do without basketball, football and baseball.”

    How about rugby, hockey, and Aussie rules? Basketball, football, and baseball, are for pansies.

  44. Cloggie on Mon, 4th Dec 2017 11:52 pm 

    “regurgitate vomit… Losers“

    Exactly the answer that was to be expected: feigned moral indignation. But Davy will not answer the question: “give me one single name and proof of somebody who was gassed. And Millimind won’t either.

    Look, I’m not going to convince any of you as you prefer to continue to believe in the lies of the Empire… because it makes you look good. I just gave you a sneak preview of what else will come if the empire goes down.

  45. Cloggie on Tue, 5th Dec 2017 12:53 am 

    Blacks rule world athletics. What

    So what? And now we should let in unlimited numbers of Africans, just because they run so fast?

    would sports do without basketball, football and baseball. It would be smarter to neuter the haters.

    In a reeducation camp, right?

    Jesus Holocaust denial now on this site…What a bunch of clowns who are jealous of the Jews because of their high intelligence.

    Oh they are smart alright. But how can you be so sure that these excess IQ-points are going to be used to your advantage, rather than their?

    Asking the question is answering it, eh?

    I admit, they are much smarter than you and I don’t envy you.

    Apneaman says: If what the angry Jew haters say is all true then their anger is just a mask for their envy and embarrassment that a paltry 15 million have bested them at every turn.

    That is absolutely true, you fooled them all, I mean Americans and Soviet-Russians (1917-1938) and made them work for your interest and carry away the victory over us Europeans in 1945, whom you never could beat, not directly:

    Millions had to die in Gulags or under bombing raids or rape sessions. Yes, you and your tribe are admirable in your criminal cunning and scheming and with simpletons like boat, supertard and millimind at your disposal and even worse characters in the USSR, you got very far indeed.

    But now it is all over. Even Bloomboig admits it. And now what, apneaman? Off to the Kibutz? Even Israel will not survive as an independent nation in a reislamified Palestine.

    You and your tribe can have the US NE coast, the NYC area and surrounding territories to play NWO/communism in and president Soros. The US version of the Russian Pale of Settlement.

    From there you can begin to think a bout a new scheme of how to conquer the world. It is in your blood.

    And you can have boat, supertard and millimind to do the work for you, while they admire your high IQ.rofl.

  46. Davy on Tue, 5th Dec 2017 12:59 am 

    “Exactly the answer that was to be expected: feigned moral indignation. But Davy will not answer the question: “give me one single name and proof of somebody who was gassed. And Millimind won’t either.”

    Dutchy, so are you saying there were no concentration camps and mass killings by your Nazi heroes? My wife’s grandfather was in one. He was one of those Italian soldiers in Albania sent to Poland. He say shit. What about the Russian and Poles killed by them left in ditches. Who cares if gas was used or not. I am not going to waste my time cherry picking facts to satisfy your denialist games. You are a loser denialist explaining away that the Nazi’s murdered millions methodically and industrially. You do this because it makes you look like the Nazi scum you are. You are the lowest of low life forms on this earth.

  47. Makati1 on Tue, 5th Dec 2017 1:30 am 

    Cloggie, when the US goes down, there will not likely be enough left to form any kind of government above tribes. There is no intelligence left there that matters. Nothing but arrogant, uneducated, obese, drugged up snowflakes. They will not even be able to feed themselves, those who survive that is, when the FF chemicals stop.

    I would not want to be there when the SNAP cards are worthless. No more welfare, unemployment insurance, retirement plans, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, SSI, or even medical services. They have been set up for the Great Leveling and it is about to happen.

  48. Cloggie on Tue, 5th Dec 2017 3:25 pm 

    Dutchy, so are you saying there were no concentration camps and mass killings by your Nazi heroes?

    Of course the concentration camps existed. A giant system of 20,000 or so. There was a war going on, the totally outnumbered Germans needed all the forced labor they could get, including my 18 year old father.

    The Americans did the same with their Japanese citizens. This US concentration camp looks very much like Auschwitz-Birkenau:

    Oh and the Americans gassed as well, the clothing’s of the prisoners that is, mind you, with exactly the same stuff: Zyklon-B.

    “Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the USA”

    Seven years ago I visited four so-called extermination camps in Poland: Auschwitz, Birkenau, Treblinka and Sobibor, already then with a skeptical eye.

    I do not claim to understand everything that happened. But the idea to let the victors of
    a war preside over the vanquished and next accuse them of horrendous crimes, just to deflect attentions away from horrendous Alllied crimes, that’s unacceptable.

    My attitude: as long as a public debate is forbidden, it didn’t happen. And just like in real life, the burden of evidence is on the accuser. Give me the name and proof of a single person gassed in these so-called 6 extermination-camps and I’ll shut up about the remaining millions as well.

    Unlike you I have read a considerable lot about the subject, as well as about 9/11 and to a lesser extend about the JFK assassination. I’m sick and tired of the lies of your establishment.

  49. Davy on Tue, 5th Dec 2017 3:40 pm 

    Dutchy, so you are saying there were not mass killings? I know you believe there were mass killing of the Germans who were unfairly atacked by the evil allies. That is clear from your line after line of regurgitate. What I am asking you is did the SS kill innocents and prisoners en mass?

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