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The Elites Are Jumping Ship As The Financial Collapse Draws Near

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It’s easy to think of the political and financial elites who run our world as lofty and all powerful. They command dangerous governments that can wield devastating weapons, central banks that treat our economy like a rigged casino, media conglomerates that pacify the minds of the public, and unbelievably wealthy corporations that have concentrated wealth to an unprecedented degree.

However, they’re certainly not invincible, and the systems of control that they’ve created are rapidly diminishing. Most notably, they seem all to aware of the fact that the global economy is headed for a crash. On the rare occasion where you can catch one of the elites in a moment of candor, they’ll tell you that the party is almost over.

Mohamed A. El-Erian is a bona fide member of the global power elite (a former deputy director of the IMF and president of the Harvard Management Co.). Yet he writes in a fairly accessible style on the popular Bloomberg website. When El-Erian talks, we should all listen.

 

In a recent article he raises serious doubts about the sustainability of the bull market in stocks because of reduced liquidity resulting from simultaneous policy tightening by the Fed, European Central Bank (ECB) and the Bank of England.

 

He says stocks rose on a sea of liquidity and they may crash when that liquidity is removed. This is a warning to other elites, but it’s also a warning to you.

Their actions are quite telling as well. Sovereign wealth funds, which are largely funded and owned by powerful governments to invest in domestic industries, are jumping ship.

Among sovereign wealth funds, the Government of Singapore Investment Corp. (GIC) is one of the largest, with over $354 billion in assets. So what does the head of GIC say about markets today?

 

Lim Chow Kiat, CEO of GIC, warns that “valuations are stretched, policy uncertainty is high” and investors are being too complacent.

 

GIC allocates 40% of its assets to cash or highly liquid bonds and only 27% of its assets to developed economy equities.

 

Meanwhile, the typical American small retail investor probably has 60% or more of her 401(k) in developed economy equities, mostly U.S.

In other words, the investment arms of wealthy nations are pulling out of the stock market and out of companies in their own economies (developed economy equities), and putting their money into assets that can be quickly turned into cash. It’s practically an admission by the elites, that they think the economy is completely unstable.

But this is just the latest warning sign that the elites are getting nervous. Corporate executives have been selling their stocks at an unprecedented rate for several months. Meanwhile, ordinary people are still placing their faith and their bets on a stock market that most experts agree is completely unsustainable.

And let’s not forget that “luxury bunkers” have become immensely popular, and that the super-wealthy have also been buying remote retreats all over the world. Are they afraid of what the public is going to do to them when their phony economy crashes and leaves everyone broke? Are they positioning themselves for a crash that they know is coming?

All of this suggests that the wealthiest and most connected among us know that chaos is in our future, and they’re getting ready for it. Ignore them at your own peril.

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35 Comments on "The Elites Are Jumping Ship As The Financial Collapse Draws Near"

  1. Makati1 on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 7:45 am 

    If you don’t follow the trends and know how much debt is accumulated in America, you are in for a very bad future as an American living in the U$. Chaos does not even begin to describe the coming events. Debt up the kazoo, most retirement plans are going to fail totally, savings will evaporate, inflation out the roof and a breakdown in law and order never seen in America. Wait and see. Get out now, if you can.

  2. Davy on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:02 am 

    There is nowhere for anyone to go anymore. Rats can’t jump ship in the middle of the ocean. The bunkers talked about are for the very few who are delusional they will have a place for safety. The majority of the wealthy are making few arrangements. They are invested in a status quo without options.

    If you want to be a true doomer and prepper then you would be adapting your life to “less” in a future of cascading “less”. You would be adapting to the wisdom of “no”, a “no” instead of a “yes” of “MOAR”. You would be collapsing in place and practicing relative sacrifice for the coming destructive change of decline and decay. You would be keeping a low profile trying to remain under the radar screen in modesty and humility. You would embrace the yielding principal of deflecting not fighting. You would be engaging your neighbors in your local and trying to make your local more resilient and sustainable. You would be doing this with the full realization no place is safe and there can be no bought safety. The only safety is relative and with likeminded people who make sacrifices and make efforts at real solutions.

    These solutions are not fixes. They are just mitigation strategies. These strategies are significantly behavioral. Good behaviors that adapt existing technology and good practices to known risks. All of this involves attitudes and it is attitudes that are required to make the proper decisions. These decisions are very difficult to make in a world of so many conflicting narratives. Few people are embracing this concept of change primarily because societies’ fake green techno optimist attitude of all will be well. We are beyond all is well and now we are facing real changes that are destructive and dangerous.

  3. Hubert on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:42 am 

    Where are they going to go? Money’s not going to mean anything when a major crash happens. You’re not going to be able to eat worthless pile of cash.

    We are headed back to an agrarian society where most people will have to learn how to grow their own food. Urban farming maybe the way of the future.

    America will be just a larger version of Cuba. I’m not too sure if that’s such a bad thing.

  4. Hubert on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:49 am 

    What Cuba can teach America about organic farming

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsnXTMC1-E

    —–

    It might be useful to teach farming at highschool level. Kid growing up today will have to learn how to grow their own food.

  5. Makati1 on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 9:05 am 

    Hubert, first about 200 million or so Americans have to die, considering that less than 5% of the population know anything about farming and many of those are old and going to die soon. Can you grow enough to feed yourself and your family without FF input?

  6. shortonoil on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 10:29 am 

    {i}”Hubert, first about 200 million or so Americans have to die,”{/i}

    It seems likely that a few billion in other areas will go before 200 million Americans do. America still has a huge amount of wealth to burn through before they will begin starving in any significant numbers. The US has over a half million stripper wells pumping 2 to 10 barrels a day, enough to feed the population and then some. It may be an improvement; it will lose the lard tubs now waddling down its streets.

  7. jan on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 10:30 am 

    It is hardly surprising the US is in such a financial state. There are 23 million government and state employees. All paid by the private sector.
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    There are only 12 million working in manufacturing, no wonder the US trade balance is so high.
    Governments have been employing people to keep unemployment low, doing it with money borrowed from every country and place.
    The US governments in particular have used borrowing not to build infrastructure and help manufacturing, but to create a false prosperity.
    https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-current-account-deficit-threat-or-way-of-life-3305701

    On top of that personal debts and credit card debts will all make the next depression much worse

  8. Hubert on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 10:40 am 

    Farmin’ in The Hood 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-vyjyK6_kg

  9. Davy on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 10:42 am 

    Jan, you do realize you Anglosphere nations are in a similar boat and in some cases much worse, right?

  10. onlooker on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 11:10 am 

    To be succinct, rich countries have the vulnerability of being so energy dependent and it’s people so clueless on how to live any other way. But poor countries have little resilience other than the grit of its people and so many of these countries are extremely overpopulated relative to available resources.
    The US has still a relatively good population to resources ratio. So all the regions of the planet face their unique set of challenges and vulnerabilities

  11. Apneaman on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 11:31 am 

    “All of this suggests that the wealthiest and most connected among us know that chaos is in our future, and they’re getting ready for it. Ignore them at your own peril.”

    What’s the difference between ignoring them VS not ignoring them?

    Will my head explode and my body spontaneously self combust if I ignore them.

    What the drop shipping experts at SHTFplan ‘ignore’ is that if everything falls apart as badly as they pretend to be worried about all of 99 nuclear power plants in the US will meltdown within 48 hrs and all the petrol chemical plants and refineries will blow up and burn sending toxic clouds all over.

    What’s the plan for that? I bet SHTFplan has a special “Seal Team 6 1/2” anti radiation suit they can sell you for only 12 low low monthly payments – BUT WAIT! order within the next 60 minutes and you’ll receive a FREE tactical toothbrush and tube of camo tactical toothpaste [Shipping & handling charges apply].

  12. onlooker on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 12:19 pm 

    Yes, and the world better hope the US does not collapse because the radiation from those 99 nuclear plants wii be dispersed on the four winds all over the planet and that is assuming some of melted molten core does not seep and flow into the ocean. Oh and those elites will get their just desert if they survive by getting to live on a most inhospitable planet

  13. dave thompson on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 2:45 pm 

    Forget about the 99 nukes in the US. Look at the Nuke crap we have dumped so far on land in the oceans and in the air. At the rate we are going we might have another 20 years.

  14. dave thompson on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 2:49 pm 

    https://youtu.be/6S5hh_jzXJI

  15. Makati1 on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 7:17 pm 

    “It seems likely that a few billion in other areas will go before 200 million Americans do”

    Typical comment from an oily guy whose life depends on the black cancer. No, the U$ does NOT have resources when the SHTF. When the money stops flowing into those losing oily corporations, they will shut the wells, refineries, etc. Think past the box you built around yourself, short.

    90+% of industry will shut down. No consumers, no chance of profits. No profits, no industry. How many million consumers does it take to keep those refineries profitable? When the average U$ income drops to less than $10K/year, (1/5 the present) how many wells will it take to keep BAU going? Do you have the answer? lol

  16. Makati1 on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:04 pm 

    “Total Government And Personal Debt In The U.S. Has Hit 41 Trillion Dollars ($329,961.34 Per Household)”

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/total-government-and-personal-debt-in-the-u-s-has-hit-41-trillion-dollars-329961-34-per-household

    “According to data from the Defense Health Agency, DoD actually spent $41.6 million on Viagra — and $84.24 million total on erectile dysfunction prescriptions — last year.

    And since 2011, the tab for drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra totals $294 million — the equivalent of nearly four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.”

    “There is no way that this is going to end well. Yes, central bank manipulation may be enough to keep the party going for a little while longer, but eventually the whole thing is going to come crashing down in a disaster of unprecedented magnitude.” Buckle Up Americans!

  17. Wolfie52 on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:05 pm 

    Same losers, different story and day. If you really believe this stuff why are you on this website (24/7 it seems) having the same argument with the same people all the time?

    Smart people are prepared; but things are not going to happen as you think. Widen your view, open your minds to differing opinions. Get out of mom’s basement and get into the real world.

  18. Apneaman on Sat, 29th Jul 2017 8:54 pm 

    An Appeal to the American Elites from One of Their Own

    “I find myself in deep disagreement with almost everyone I talk to about Trump and Trumpism. I firmly believe that Trump, by himself, is not the problem. Indeed, the left’s maniacal focus on Trump confuses cause with effect. Yes, Trump is a manifestation of a serious civic sickness. But treating the symptom by removing Trump won’t cure the disease, even if it temporarily makes us feel better. No, to heal the body politic we must confront the disease itself.”

    http://peterturchin.com/cliodynamica/appeal-american-elites-one/

  19. Jan on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 2:04 am 

    Davy

    Yes I do. but the collapse of the U.S. will trigger a global depression.
    The U.S has all the ingredients for an anarchic collapse. A massive disenfranchised black and Hispanic population.
    http://blackdemographics.com/households/poverty/

    A healthcare system many cannot afford.

    http://nypost.com/2017/06/07/1-in-4-americans-refuse-medical-care-because-they-cant-afford-it/

    Gun ownership to start a war, with 76,000,000 Americans owning a gun.

    A sickness epidemic will make things even worse when people cannot afford treatment.

    https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

    https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fs_heart_disease.htm

    http://www.strokecenter.org/patients/about-stroke/stroke-statistics/

    http://www.alz.org/facts/

    and a debt increasing by $2,000,000,000 per day trying to keep this one engine plane from crashing.

  20. Cloggie on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 3:33 am 

    I find myself in deep disagreement with almost everyone I talk to about Trump and Trumpism. I firmly believe that Trump, by himself, is not the problem. Indeed, the left’s maniacal focus on Trump confuses cause with effect. Yes, Trump is a manifestation of a serious civic sickness

    Trump is indeed a symptom, a symptom of a beginning European-American revolt. They got mass-migration sicked upon them since 1965 by a treacherous Anglo-Zionist “elite”, determined to replace white America with a mongrelized population that should serve as a template, an example for the rest of the future borderless world, a world owned by said Anglo-Zionist elite. The NWO.

    It’s all going to fail, just like the other communist experiment failed in the USSR. People are tribal, no matter how much the Sorosses/Apneaman’s of this world preach that tribalism should be abandoned. That “racism” (racialism) is wrong.

    The differences between tribes are gigantic. One tribe can put a man on the moon, another tribe can barely carve a wooden penis shaft out of a piece of wood.

    Yet the Sorosses/Apneaman’s of this world want to destroy these natural inter-tribal hierarchies, like they existed for centuries until 1939, because they want to create a globalist hierarchy with THEM on top. And until Trump came along, they could count on the services of naive Americans to do the dirty work for them… Dresden… Hiroshima.

    America has come full circle. The gigantic Chinese tribe can’t be mongrelized, won’t be mongrelized, they said so last month, officially:

    http://tinyurl.com/y85d845k

    So even if the Anglo-Zionist elite would realize their dream of creating a coffee-colored populace in America, all they would achieve is handing over the keys of the planet to the Chinese IQ100 tribe of 1300 million.

    Sum Ting Wong
    (“That’s not right”)

    The actions of the Chinese and Russians should make it clear to every thinking American that the Washington lead NWO, that is a global US empire, owned by the Sorosses, is not going to happen.

    Exceptionalism exit.

    Save of European-America what can be saved will be the new creed.

    Between 1989-1991 the Soviet empire fell flat on its face. It had reached end-of-life status. The West is about to undergo a similar collapse process and refactoring. But this time it is going to be much more bloody.

    Soviet refactoring was about replacing a useless leftist economic system with one that does work.

    Western refactoring will be about segregation and separatism (America) and ethnic cleansing (Europe).

    The downfall of the western empire will enable China to advance to planetary pole position, which will dictate Europe and Russia to combine forces and start all over again after the end of the American Era.

  21. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 6:54 am 

    Jan, you sound like a Canadian…”ya but but but..We are better than you Americans…why don’t you highlight what is going on in Europe? Does it hurt so much? You Anglo’s can’t look in the mirror. Your disenfranchisement is serious and nothing to ignore. Spare me the references because this is common knowledge and highlighted constantly by you anti-Americans.

    The US is a 3rd world country and a 1st world country. We are acclimated to it. We have always had it. Your Europe is where the dramatic test will be because your socialistic tendencies are not going to hold up to the dramatic decline ahead. The US is already and has been a place of contrasting class. In my opinion the US will be better prepared for decline than China or Europe because we are there and have been.

    “Gun ownership to start a war, with 76,000,000 Americans owning a gun.”
    It is the gun ownership that will keep people from going ape shit on each other out of respect for the defense others have. Do you think a group of black gang members are going to rampage into a mostly white area? No they won’t. They will stay in their home base. So we may balkanize because of guns but we are not going to have a sweep of areas by groups like might occur in your England.

    “A sickness epidemic will make things even worse when people cannot afford treatment.”
    What you people don’t understand is people get treatment in the US if they can’t afford treatment. You dumbass Anglos/Eurotards don’t know what is going on here. People get treatment regardless if they can pay or not. It is a mess and a scary system but no one goes without treatment in general. You anti-Americans will cherry pick some sad story and there are many but in general people are taken care of. The reality is we have a three tear system of health care and out healthcare at the top is the best in the world. At the bottom it is 3rd world. In the middle it is average. Health care is a great obstacle for US progress but look around because it is coming to your Europe Jan and it is called decline and dysfunction.

    “a debt increasing by $2,000,000,000 per day trying to keep this one engine plane from crashing.”

    Jan, take a look at the debt going on in the Anglosphere and Europe. Think about and realize we have a reserve currency allowing us to shoulder more debt. We have more control over our destiny they you Europeans. The worst debt is in China where it is exploding. We have a debt problem but so does the world. Europe is the worst place for Economic dysfunction with a half-baked political arrangement with a common currency. Study that situation and then get back to me. You Europeans are on the verge of a political break up. Europe is sinking into a system of debt dysfunction because of the sovereign debt issues. You have high unemployment and low growth that make paying this debt back impossible. The north has some good economic results because they are parasitically bleeding the south.

    Yea, the US has multiple problems but we are on an anti-American site with a predominant amount of articles criticizing the US. The people here are anti-American asshole Anglos or US hating Americans. This makes a general environment of bigotry and condensation by people that need to look in the mirror at themselves. The US is collapsing but it may happen we are the last man down. You dumbasses fail to look at our strengths. Our strengths are never talked about here. If they ever get mentions the dumbass Canadians here have a shit fit. I love spitting in the eyes of anti-Americans. It is so easy. You guys can say all you like to me. I already get it throw at me daily. It is you guys that praise yourselves and haze me that can’t take the shit smell when it gets thrown back on you.

  22. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 6:57 am 

    “The downfall of the western empire will enable China to advance to planetary pole position, which will dictate Europe and Russia to combine forces and start all over again after the end of the American Era.”

    China is likely to have a downfall first followed by Europe. Russia is such a small nation it will never take advantage of Empire status. You see I can spout of opinions all day long cloggie. All you are is one big fat Eurotard agenda in action.

  23. Cloggie on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 7:12 am 

    Russia is such a small nation it will never take advantage of Empire status.

    Strawman, nobody says it will.

    China is likely to have a downfall first

    Why would China fall?

    China, Russia and Eastern-Europe are ethnic homogeneous.

    America in contrast is a multi-ethnic pressure cooker, more than anybody else and exactly THAT is going to be the downfall of the US empire: civil war and secession, no matter how hard you keep repeating these empty “racism!” mantras. Keep ignoring the Trump phenomenon at your own peril.

    Oh and why is it again that you are happy with your new Italian passport? Just in case something goes wrong in America, as you yourself admitted.

    B-b-but I thought that Europe would go before our “last man standing” (US). You don’t believe your own BS.

    All you are is one big fat Eurotard agenda in action.

    And you don’t have a fat US imperial agenda, like “keeping maritime traffic open the South-China Sea with US carriers”? ROFL

    House of Cards. The most popular US TV series in recent years. What’s in a name?

  24. Makati1 on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 7:19 am 

    cloggie, Davy is beyond rational thought. You are wasting your time, unless you like poking the Missouri Mule like I do.

    There is a very good chance that china is being groomed by TPTB to take down the U$D and allow it to be replaced by the IMF SDRs. Teaming up with Russia both economically and militarily is a plus for China and the world. Eventually, the world island will be united and the Americas will all be 3rd world countries. We shall see.

  25. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 7:27 am 

    “ Strawman, nobody says it will.”
    Sure you do cloggie. Russia is an essential component of your Paris, Berlin, Moscow Empire theme.

    “China is likely to have a downfall first. Why would China fall?”
    Clog if you would get out of your race bigotry and start looking at some of the other real issues that will bring down nations maybe you would see why. Try looking at overpopulation and economic dysfunction that is occurring in China. You assume the global economy will be fine and China can continue to be an export engine keeping their teaming masses busy. Oh, you might ask yourself how they are going to feed themselves when the monocultures of the world are not being shipped around when they can’t fed themselves as-is. You might look at their environment that is failing. I could go on and on. The problem with you is your anti-American obsession keep you from seeing a balanced reality.

    “Oh and why is it again that you are happy with your new Italian passport? Just in case something goes wrong in America, as you yourself admitted. B-b-but I thought that Europe would go before our “last man standing” (US). You don’t believe your own BS”
    Cloggie, I won’t leave my kids but it is nice to know I have somewhere to go. Where are you going Switzerland? At least I have options but you have none. I have never sais it will be the last man standing “mouth stuffer” I said it may be, it might be, and there is no reason it can’t be,

    “House of Cards. The most popular US TV series in recent years. What’s in a name?”
    I am not in denial my nation is on the verge of collapse. It is you that are in denial yours is! LMFAO. Just like makati, you guys are all smug the US will collapse an benefit you in this collapse. You both totally discount your own coming decline and collapse. Old men living in a fantasy world is what you guys are.

  26. Cloggie on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 8:05 am 

    Sure you do cloggie. Russia is an essential component of your Paris, Berlin, Moscow Empire theme.

    Ah, now you are adding Europe to the mix where you previously referred to Russia alone.

    Clog if you would get out of your race bigotry and start looking at some of the other real issues that will bring down nations maybe you would see why.

    Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine descended into war, not because of my “race bigotry”, but because of ethnic divisions, where the dominance of one tribe (Serbs, Sunnis, Alawites, Ukrainian) was overthrown by Albanian Muslims, Shi’ites, Sunni fundamentalist and Russians respectively.

    You see, the world couldn’t care less about the US anti-race-bigotry standards, as professed by your ideological rulers at the ADL.

    Cloggie, I won’t leave my kids but it is nice to know I have somewhere to go.

    Ah, so you are not that sure that the US is going to be the “last man standing” rather than Europe.

    Where are you going Switzerland? At least I have options but you have none.

    I have no intention of going anywhere, I kill all sizes.lol

    I am not in denial my nation is on the verge of collapse. It is you that are in denial yours is!

    No it is not on the verge of collapse.

    #GoldenDecadeEuropaAhead

    But I do agree with you that if one large party collapses financially/economically, BAU will stop everywhere else, like in 2008.

    you guys are all smug the US will collapse an benefit you in this collapse.

    If “benefit” means “escaping form the US empire”, than yes. But a seceded, isolationist Amerika (not to be confused with America) could spectacularly recover, just like Russia did after 2000, once the Heartland is freed from Washington and its globalist policies at the expense of the US population.

    #MakingAmerikaGreatByMakingItSmallerAgain

  27. Cloggie on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 11:06 am 

    EU contemplates freezing saving accounts in case of a bank run:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-banks-deposits-idUSKBN1AD1RS

    It already happened in Greece.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOcjGmktb0

    Avoid the rush and contemplate strategies other than leaving large amounts of money in the bank. Like paying off real estate or buying a piece of land.

  28. boat on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 11:37 am 

    clogg,

    What happened to Europe doing great? Why not invest in wind. With your expensive electricity wind should provide steady income for 30 years.

  29. bug on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 11:41 am 

    If the collapse comes or doesn’t, who cares?
    I enjoy reading how the rich/elites will go along happily like clams as TSHTF. They will be butchered. And preppers do the same/say the same crap. Ain’t nobody gonna make it as Apnea says, the nuclear power plants are going to finish it. I lead my simple life and when it happens I will enjoy the show. If it doesn’t come, I am going to enjoy my life and not worry. I hope a meteor or something else does the job.
    The geopolitical talk is interesting to read, but nobody really knows how it will play out.

  30. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 12:28 pm 

    bug, maybe you should work on what collapse really means is because it is not binary. It is multi-dimensional and a process. Saying it is on or off is eliminating about 90% of the possibility of what we will be living in.

  31. bug on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 12:47 pm 

    Exactly Davy, it is unknown how it will happen and what will take place. Nobody knows what will the outcome will be.
    As an example, during ww2 generals and policy planners most likely stated “we will do this and this and thus will occur and the enemy will do x,y,z”, I can bet that from 1939 to 1945 not a single soul picked the outcome on any side. Same with collapse. I am enjoying it as I enjoy a good mystery movie, not knowing the ending. But that is just me.

  32. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 3:55 pm 

    Bug, my point is some basic prep efforts are worth while. I agree with you that total protection is a fantasy. I mention basic prep efforts because the collapse process may have a light degree and longer duration. Maybe the worst will be delayed. Who knows but if this is the case those who make some effort will be well ahead of those who don’t because once decline sets in investing in preparations will be difficult.

  33. bug on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 6:16 pm 

    I have prepped but it is more leading a simple life on my secluded rural acreage. I would live the way I do if it was going to be a concrete proven fact that business as usual was to go on perpetually (I know it cant). I enjoy a simple/rural existence, that’s all.

  34. Davy on Sun, 30th Jul 2017 6:26 pm 

    Bug, a simple life on secluded rural acreage is a good prep lifestyle foundation. You are naturally prepping already. All you need to do is some tweaking and you are good to go.

  35. Harquebus on Mon, 31st Jul 2017 5:07 pm 

    It’s not just growing your own food. It is growing your own food without pesticides and fertilizers. Try it. It ain’t easy.

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