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China Won’t Reach Peak Energy Demand Till 2040

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China will not reach peak energy demand until the year 2040, according to a new report from the China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) on Wednesday.

Previous estimates said the peak would be reached in 2035, but new figures suggest that five years later, demand would be its highest at 4.06 billion tons of oil equivalent. Rising fuel needs stem from an increasing number of cars on Chinese roads, as a growing middle class adopts new luxuries in their daily lives.

The report added that China’s old demand will grow at a rate of 2.7 percent annually until 2020, after which it will slow to 1.2 percent until the end of the next decade.

Currently, China is second only to the United States in its overall energy consumption, but the nation’s high coal use causes it to emit almost twice as much carbon dioxide than the first-place consumer.

Last month, the International Energy Agency (IEA)  said that China will account for 40 percent of the global annual growth in natural gas demand over the next five years.

Imports of the bridge fuel in Asia’s second-largest economy are running at record rates as Beijing pushes on with its cleaner energy agenda that should see the country satisfy 10 percent of its energy needs with gas in 2020, from 5.9 percent in 2015.

This shift to gas could create new opportunities for independent energy companies at the expense of state-owned giants.

Energy independents are building a string of LNG import facilities, Bloomberg reported earlier this week, stimulated by the government’s efforts to promote gas and encourage competition, and by the attractive prices on the spot market. There are already three LNG import terminals, developed by Jovo Energy, Guanghui Energy, and ENN Group—one of China’s biggest energy independents. Three more terminals are either being planned or are already under construction.

By Zainab Calcuttawala for Oilprice.com



44 Comments on "China Won’t Reach Peak Energy Demand Till 2040"

  1. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:26 am 

    ….that is unless the global economy and especially China’s economy go into decline which is a potential scenario. Why is this not discussed?

  2. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:36 am 

    The techno cornucopians like to tell us how awesome everything is. This is the basis of their fantasy fake green energy transition, IMA the definition of which is 100% and in 15 years. Let’s get real and let’s realize we are in dangerous economic territory where all efforts at growth and development will be derailed. This includes fake green variety also.

    “Despite ‘Growth Promise’, Global Negative-Yielding Debt Surges To Highest Since October”
    http://tinyurl.com/ybkhdvmt

    “The market value of bonds yielding less than zero percent has jumped by a quarter over the past month to $8.68 trillion, the highest since October… which is odd given the mainstream narrative that everything is awesome and global growth is heading for escape velocity? “probably nothing” As Bloomberg notes, slower-than-forecast inflation data and haven demand on geopolitical risk have revived bond bulls around the world. With global borrowing costs already so low, central banks should be prepared to cut interest rates deep into negative territory in the next economic downturn, warn economists including Harvard professor Kenneth Rogoff.”

  3. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:45 am 

    The lie that is Euro prosperity.
    “Spanish Bond Yields Plunge To Record Lows As ‘Economy Improves’ (Just Don’t Tell The Nation’s Youth)”
    http://tinyurl.com/y7jg3csq

    Spain’s two-year bond yields have collapsed to a record low -35bps this week and Portugal’s followed suit, plunging near record low levels as Draghi’s “whatever it takes” has benefitted all those front-running bondholders but left youth unemployment hovering still near record-high levels. As a strong euro weighs on the region’s inflation outlook, it makes it harder for the European Central Bank to end quantitative easing and negative interest rates, said Peter Chatwell, head of European rates strategy at Mizuho International Plc in London, and sure enough today’s reports that Draghi’s Jackson Hole appearance will be a nothing burger has sparked more anticipation that QE isn’t ending anytime soon, despite better-late-than-never complaints from the Germans. “Whatever it takes” to keep asset prices high!

  4. onlooker on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:53 am 

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/problem-china-cannot-outgrow
    “China’s corporate debt has climbed to levels that, in other countries, have led to financial crises.But the debt-for-equity swap program Beijing adopted this year will not solve its problems, and China will not be able to grow itself out of trouble again.The Chinese government will have to either sacrifice growth and political capital to reduce its mounting debt or risk a banking crisis.”

  5. Shortend on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 8:42 am 

    Yep, but the energy output is looking in the rear view mirror.
    Man, some articles are really a waste of time.

  6. rockman on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 9:23 am 

    shortened – Agreed. The title is “energy demand”…not ff demand. Its demand for energy won’t peak until its population peaks. Or until its economy permanently crashes.

    Granted the current growth rate is only 0.5%. But that means by 2040 there will be an additional 300+ million Chinese. Close to the current population of the USA.

  7. Cloggie on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 9:36 am 

    The lie that is Euro prosperity.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-4795202/Dutch-economy-poised-strongest-growth-decade.html

    3.3% growth, public debt 54%, government budget surplus 1%, unemployment 4%.

    #GoldenDecadeEurope

    …says Hildebrand deputy CEO of Blackrock, the largest moneybag in the world:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM9_PrBoq9Q

    Your collapse meme becomes tired, Davy. Ten years ago it may have been edgy, but it has outlived itself.

  8. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 9:53 am 

    Just messaged numbers, clog, when you consider the underlying basis. You can post numbers all day long and they are meaningless without and understanding of the whole picture which you are unwilling to acknowledge. Talk about a Euro chauvinist. Get real, your economy is the most at risk of the major powers and you act like it is the best.

  9. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 10:02 am 

    “A Volatile Autumn”: Buckled Up For Structured Criticality”
    http://tinyurl.com/y9cxh8zf

    “Structured criticality is a property of complex systems in which small events may trigger larger events due to subtle interdependencies between elements. This often gives rise to a form of stratified chaos where the general behavior of the system can be modeled on one scale while smaller- and larger-scale behaviors remain unpredictable. For example: Consider a pile of sand. If you drop one grain of sand on top of this pile every second, the pile will continue to grow in the shape of a cone. The general shape, size, and growth of this cone is fairly easy to model as a function of the rate at which new sand grains are added, the size and shape of the grains, and the number of grains in the pile. The pile retains its shape because occasionally a new grain of sand will trigger an avalanche which causes some number of grains to slide down the side of the cone into new positions. These avalanches are chaotic. It is nearly impossible to predict if the next grain of sand will cause an avalanche, where that avalanche will occur on the pile, how many grains of sand will be involved in the event, and so on. – Wikipedia”

    “We still have high conviction the risk markets will experience a swift, short, and steep sell-off in October – 5 to 10 percent – based on: 1) seasonality; 2) the Fed balance sheet should, or could be shrinking ; 3) China’s Party Congress may have concluded, removing the country’s implicit policy put, and thus increasing the risk of a China policy or economic shock; 4) the new U.S. Federal government fiscal year begins October 1 and if the Trump administration has not passed any significant economic legislation, the markets may begin to throw in the towel; 5) there will be more clarity on ECB tapering; 6) even more elevated asset prices as the risk markets grind higher through the rest of summer as we suspect, setting up for a potential blow-off by the end of September; 7) nervousness over the debt ceiling; and, finally, 8) by then, the markets should be sufficiently overbought, overvalued and very vulnerable to event risk. – GMM”

    “Upshot? It’s probably time to buckle up. We expect volatility to begin to pick up; for the markets to start banging around until October; then experience a Tower of Terror sell-off sometime in October. Though the sell-off may be the day the algos go rogue, there is no doubt, the full firepower of the PPT and the Fed will be put to work. Can they beat this new technology gone wild? Gotta be quick on the draw as it could be over in the blink of an eye. Could be wrong. after all, isn’t this astrology, folks?”

  10. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 10:03 am 

    Cloggie,

    In other ‘News’, from the Daily Mail:

    ‘It was like someone holding a blowtorch to your leg’: Schoolgirl, 17, attacked by a love rival who poured DRAIN CLEANER into her viola case reveals the scars she will have for the rest of her life”

    “Stalker policewoman hacked married man’s Facebook to post derogatory comments about his wife and change his relationship status to ‘single'”

    “EXCLUSIVE: ‘Give me a good luck f**k and s**k’: Sordid messages All Blacks star sent mystery lawyer ahead of their disabled toilet sex scandal – before begging her not to tell his GIRLFRIEND”

    “Cyclist, 20, ‘who killed a mother-of-two while riding a bike with no front brakes claims he had no idea they were illegal and had used them on roads for EIGHT MONTHS’ ”

    “Schoolboy, 13, faces jail after admitting raping his four-year-old sister then bribing her to stay silent with a bag of Skittles”

    “Why you should NEVER ask for a Diet Coke on a plane, according to flight attendants (as crew members say they can serve three passengers in the time it takes to pour ONE can)”

    “Seven-year-old girl is left with horrifying chemical burns and scars after getting a black henna tattoo on holiday in Egypt ”

    “Will Hurricane Gert save Britain’s summer? Atlantic storm heading this way is set to pull a band of good weather up from the Azores (and heaven knows we need it!)”

    Hmmm, sounds like a perfectly credible source of news to me……..

  11. deadlykillerbeaz on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 10:13 am 

    Probably should have an Anthony Bourdain write an entry on Chinese street food from Shanghai.

    Plenty of cng burned to cook boiled rice in a giant wok for some great Chinese food.

    “Drinking rum from a pineapple out on Honolulu Bay” – John Prine

  12. Cloggie on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 10:26 am 

    Hmmm, sounds like a perfectly credible source of news to me……..

    Come on Greg, you really think that every newspaper has a research institute to figure out growth numbers of all countries or just makes these figures up?

    The real source of the data, the Dutch central statistical bureau (CBS):

    https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2017/33/uitzonderlijk-hoge-bbp-groei-in-tweede-kwartaal-2017
    (scroll down a little)

    And just study the insane growth numbers of Amsterdam airport last year, that perfectly matches this growth number:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Europe

    We are certainly going to overtake Paris this year…

    http://www.upinthesky.nl/2016/06/19/schiphol-zit-charles-de-gaulle-op-de-hielen/

    … and our next victim will be London, that has weak cards after Brexit. After all, who wants to travel to a majority Muslim city?

    I know, I know, childish…lol

    #ClogPride

    Talk about a Euro chauvinist. Get real, your economy is the most at risk of the major powers and you act like it is the best.

    We are the best. It ain’t bragging if it is true.

    #TexanProverb

  13. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 10:38 am 

    No Cloggie, I don’t think that the news rags need to make that stuff up, governments do a good enough job of that themselves. Besides, given the current state of the planet, would good could possibly come from even more human economic growth? I would consider that to be a bad thing. YMMV.

  14. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:19 am 

    Cloggie,

    Someone of your advanced educational background surely would explore any and all pertinent information, no?

    Did you bother to spend the 4 or so minutes of your life to read the 14 (5) pages from the paper that I linked for you the other day? Or has engineering become more of an ideology, like say, the modern ‘school’ of economics?

  15. Cloggie on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:31 am 

    Greg, I do not think that the Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek (CBS) cooks the books. Holland scores good at the international (lack of) corruption index. As the CBS write itself, this growth is “exceptional”, where the figures over the last 10 years were not good at all. I think that Europe is indeed in for a period of significant recovery.

    Is it is good for the planet? Yes, because it enables us to fund the energy transition, which in the long run is good for everybody.

  16. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:45 am 

    Transition to what Cloggie? The only thing good in the long run would be to bring an end the the infinite exponential growth fallacy, before it brings an end to a healthy natural biosphere capable of supporting life as we know it.

    You keep going on about how alternate electric power generation is somehow going to save humanity from the ravages of modern industrialism, when in fact, if it was possible,(which it is not) it would merely replace one source of energy with another. Our current predicaments stem not from a lack of energy, but rather a surplus of energy. How do you propose that adding even more surplus energy into the mix in anyway solves the predicaments caused by a surplus of energy? And how do you propose that using the remaining fossil fuels to build out this alternate energy scheme will in anyway solve the problem of adding even more accumulative CO2 into the environment?

  17. onlooker on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:48 am 

    If I may. CLOG you seem always focused on the trees but fail to see the entire forest. Let us say Renewable energy does solve the impending energy crisis, it does NOT solve the bigger overshoot crisis of humanity. In fact it makes it worse by allowing our current population to maintain if not increase its current levels. And that means we will be continuing to draw down non renewable resources and become even more out of balance with renewable ones. Resources like top soil, fresh water, minerals like phosphorus essential to our food supply. Not to mention continuing to pollute and contaminate the Earth.
    So, business as usual with regards to our numbers and modern ways of living is degrading the very environment required to sustain us. Thus extending BAU will only make the planet ever more inhospitable to life including ourselves. How is that any kind of solution?

  18. Boat on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 1:47 pm 

    onlooker,

    You always frame energy as in some kind of crisis or impending crisis as if ff energy or renewables has anything to do with sex.

    “Thus extending BAU will only make the planet ever more inhospitable to life including ourselves. How is that any kind of solution”?

    We should agree sex is the culprit for increased demand for all resources. Why not start the blame game with the demographic that has the most children…..drum roll….Muslims.

  19. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 2:08 pm 

    Have you ever taken into consideration Boat, as to why it is the countries with the least access to resources and energy, and the poorest social programs that have the most kids?

    Or have you taken into consideration that the U.S., with 5% of the global population, consumes around 20% of the world’s resources.

    Kind of flies in the face of your usual nonsense, and complete lack of intelligence, now doesn’t it.

  20. bobinget on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 2:12 pm 

    Someone.
    What’s a 2.7 growth rate compounded for just ten years? This from 2016;

    BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) – China imported record volumes of crude oil last month, eclipsing the United States as the world’s top buyer of foreign oil as Beijing’s state reserves shipped in cheap crude to fill new storage tanks.

    September’s crude imports rose 18 percent from a year earlier to 33.06 million tonnes or 8.04 million barrels per day (bpd) on daily basis, customs data showed.

    The buying outpaced the U.S. four-week average assessed by the U.S. Energy Information Administration of 7.98 million bpd at the end of September.

    It marked the second time this year – but the third month in the past twelve – that China’s imports have overtaken the United States, and reflected contracts signed in July when renewed selling pressure pushed crude below $42 a barrel. Oil has since recovered to around $50 a barrel.

    2017:
    BEIJING (Reuters) – China’s crude oil imports rebounded to the second highest on record in May, making China the world’s top buyer for the month amid concerns over tightening crude supply to Asia and an extension of producer cuts to March next year.

    China imported 37.2 million tonnes or 8.76 million barrels per day of crude oil last month, up 15 percent from a year earlier and nearly 8 percent from April, data from the General Administration of Customs showed.

    OK, lets settle for a starting point of 9 M B p/d
    with growth rates far below those stated above.
    say 4% (roughy half existing) Start 1/1/18
    don’t forget to compound.
    How much oil will China require in 2020… 2040?

  21. rockman on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 2:52 pm 

    Something to consider when comparing how much oil China and the US imports: both countries reexport a considerable amount of that oil volume in the form of refinery products. For some time the US has been the biggest product exporter on the planet. The US reexports about half the volume of oil it imports in the form of refinery products. And China has increased that amount significantly in the last 2 years. The US has no limit on such exports…China does have a quota system:

    “China has issued 9.06 million tonnes of refined fuel export quotas under so-called processing trade terms in its third batch of quotas. The current round of quotas is 49% higher than last year’s batch, which were all issued under the processing category, of 6.085 million tonnes. The new quotas increased the total number of processing permits to 24.76 million tonnes granted so far in 2017.”

    More at:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-oil-quotas-idUSKBN1940XW

    And one more interesting bit of trivia: the largest monetary value of Greek imports: oil. And the largest monetary value of Greek exports: refinery products. IOW looking at the oil import volume of any country without understanding the details can lead to false assumptions about the oil consumption of a country. IOW half of US oil imports actually have a positive effect on our economy and not a drain on it. US companies employee a lot of people and generate a lot of taxable profit from those oil imports.

  22. onlooker on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 3:16 pm 

    Besides general randiness or lust, other reasons people in poor countries are having sex and reproducing, is social and religious pressure and group identity. Economic reasons. Cultural ones to pass down the family and its name. Religious taboo about using contraceptives and little access to contraceptives because of poverty or lack of accessibility. Peer pressure. I have probably missed a few. But you guys who would say why are they so horny and having so many kids in the poor countries, lets delve into it a little before making these simplistic accusations.

  23. dave thompson on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 6:24 pm 

    “US companies employee a lot of people and generate a lot of taxable profit from those oil imports.”
    Yes and lets not forget to mention the untold externalities of air, water and land pollution that come along with all the wondrous industrial activities. That then lead to cancer related illnesses death and lord knows what in the effected populations.
    USA! USA! USA!

  24. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 6:50 pm 

    My great grandparents had 11 children on the prairies in Alberta onlooker. 6 survived until adulthood. Back in those days, your family was your old age security plan.

  25. Davy on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:28 pm 

    “Analyst Lays Out China’s “Doomsday” Scenario”
    http://tinyurl.com/yas8lxxc

    “Corporate investigator Violet Ho never put a lot of faith in the bad loan numbers reported by China’s banks: crisscrossing provinces from Shandong to Xinjiang, she’s seen too much – from the shell game of moving assets between affiliated companies to disguise the true state of their finances to cover-ups by bankers loath to admit that loans they made won’t be recovered. The amount of bad debt piling up in China is at the center of a debate about whether the country will continue as a locomotive of global growth “

    “Another problem with making estimates of adequate collateral protection in China….. it is safe to assume that loss given default rates in China are if not 100% (or more, which is impossible in theoretical terms but in practice is quite possible, as another curious side effect of unlimited collateral rehypothecation), then as close to it as possible. In early June, Reuters published an expose on China’s “Ghost Collateral” reminding China watchers that this most insidious phenomenon is anything but gone.”

    “International experience suggests that China’s credit growth is on a dangerous trajectory, with increasing risks of a disruptive adjustment and/or a marked growth slowdown,” the IMF said. This statement is spot on, because as the IIF recently showed, total Chinese debt/GDP has now crossed above 300%, a level that in every historical instance, led to a financial crisis.”

    “What was left unsaid is that it is only because China doubled its total debt load following the financial crisis that the world managed to avoid succumbing to an unprecedented depression in the years following the financial crisis. However, by engaging on this unprecedented debt rampage, China only delayed the inevitable.”

    “The number is a doozy: in her latest report, Chu estimates that bad debt in China’s financial system will reach as much as Rmb51 trillion , or $7.6 trillion, by the end of this year, more than five times the value of bank loans officially classified as either non-performing or one notch above.” That estimate implies a bad-debt ratio of 34%, orders of magnitude above the official 5.3% ratio for those two categories at the end of June.”

    “Chen’s conclusion is delightfully and perversely reflexive: as long as China can avoid a crash, it will avoid a crash: “If there’s an economic collapse, of course there will be massive credit losses. No one disagrees about that. But the issue is whether the collapse will actually happen.”

  26. Makati1 on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:53 pm 

    In other real news:

    “China is the largest foreign holder of American debt again” Not all ammunition is bullets.
    ““A historic day”, says Zuma at launch of BRICS Bank African unit” Moving forward.
    “China’s net inflows rise in Q1, Q2 of 2017”
    “Chinese satellite sends unbreakable code from space”
    “Emerging markets grow best in three years”
    http://thebricspost.com/
    “China’s Economy Shows Strong Resilience”
    “Imagine What Would Happen if China Decided to Impose Economic Sanctions on the USA?”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/global-economy
    “Washington’s Sanctions Spree is About to Hit China” American suicide.
    https://journal-neo.org/

    Maybe the negative China propaganda … er … news in America is to distract the lemmings from The disaster that is America 2017?

  27. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 7:58 pm 

    So if China crashes, does that mean they have to give back all of the assets that they have been buying all over the world? I sure hope so, because in North America they’ve been buying up everything that isn’t nailed down, and a ton of stuff that is.

  28. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 8:32 pm 

    When Chinese visit Yellowstone, the rangers are speaking their language

    Yellowstone National Park has hired three Mandarin-speaking interpretive rangers this summer to help ease communication with a growing influx of Chinese tourists.

    https://tinyurl.com/y9camdgt

  29. GregT on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 8:39 pm 

    Banff prepares for tourism boost from Chinese millennials

    90,000 visitors from China expected in Alberta this year, up 50% from a few years ago.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-banff-tourism-chinese-millennials-1.3963313

  30. Makati1 on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:12 pm 

    Shh GregT. you’ll antagonize the Sinophobes here. lol

    I wonder how many know that there are over 300,000 Chinese students attending US colleges?

    https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2014/11/17/number-of-international-college-students-continues-to-climb

    “Meanwhile, figures from the U.S. Travel Association show that around 3 million tourists from the Chinese mainland visited the US in 2015, up by 16 percent from last year.”

    http://gbtimes.com/china/more-chinese-tourists-visit-us-2016-says-travel-agency

    Buying up America…

    Smithfield Foods $7.1B
    Ingram Micro $6.3B
    GE Appliance $5.4B
    Terex $5.4B
    Legendary Entertainment Group $3.5B
    Motorola Mobility $3.1B
    AMC Entertainment Holdings $2.6B

    http://fortune.com/2016/03/18/the-biggest-american-companies-now-owned-by-the-chinese/

    There are about 40 Chinatowns in the US. The oldest in San Francisco (1848) WIKI

    BTW: “Binondo in Manila, established in 1594, is recognized as the world’s oldest Chinatown.” A great place to shop! ^_^

  31. Cloggie on Thu, 17th Aug 2017 11:24 pm 

    “My great grandparents had 11 children on the prairies in Alberta onlooker. 6 survived until adulthood. Back in those days, your family was your old age security plan.”

    Either that or he “forgot to leave the church before the singing began”.

  32. Davy on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 5:27 am 

    “Shh GregT. you’ll antagonize the Sinophobes here. Lol I wonder how many know that there are over 300,000 Chinese students attending US colleges?”

    So you are saying China’s financial problems are irrelevant because of a few cherry picked headlines. You call acknowledging problems that are global problems insignificant and Sinophobe? I think this presentation blows a big hole in your anti-American Asiaphile agenda. Your agenda is Asiaphilia which is a personality disorder. It is so easy to kick an anti-American in the teeth because they also are generally chauvinist. A chauvinist has extreme and unsupportable patriotic positions. In makat’s case you add in the emotional anti-American attacks and the guy looks ridiculous. But it sells to the anti-Americans here who could give a shit about reality. They just want tabloid dirty laundry to much on.

    Oh, BTW, I see the Chinese students often in my nearest big town of Rolla, MO at S&T. We have an exceptional Engineering University here. There is a great Korean restaurant I see and occasionally talk to them in. You can do a lot of things on debt makat. Like attend college. I don’t dislike The Chinese. Taoism is an essential part of my spirituality and I drink Chinese green tea daily. I dislike people on this board who constantly talk China up and the US down without balance and the reality that both are sick economically.

  33. Kenz300 on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 6:56 pm 

    Too many people. More people need more resources.

  34. Cloggie on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 7:08 pm 

    Another brilliant homerun, Kenz.

    Wonder where that 3000 stands for.

  35. Cloggie on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 7:09 pm 

    300

  36. Boat on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 7:32 pm 

    Being a 4th generation Scandinavian it is a little embarrassing how Asians do better than any other demographic assimilating to the US. They also seem to be more race tolerant, hard working, and make great Americans.

  37. Apneaman on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 8:49 pm 

    Clog, that 300? That’s how many dicks Kenz sucked last week. They all ejaculated alt energy/green seamen so it’s all good.

  38. Apneaman on Fri, 18th Aug 2017 8:57 pm 

    China gonna be cranking up the A/C.

    Taipei is in the middle of its longest, strongest heat wave

    “In Taipei, it’s never been so hot for so long.

    By 1:45 p.m. on Friday, the mercury in Taipei had climbed to 37.7 C, marking the 14th day in a row of temperatures above 36 C.

    As far as the 120-year-old weather records go, this is the longest streak in Taipei’s history.

    Banqiao in New Taipei had reached 35.9 C by 11:37 a.m., while Chiayi and Hengchun in Southern Taiwan also had highs above 35 C.

    Central Weather Bureau data show that 2017 could go down as the hottest year in Taiwan’s history.

    Halfway into 2017, Taiwan has already had 16 days of temperatures above 37 C — that’s the second-most number of days ever.

    First place is held by 2016, which had 20 days over the course of the year.”

    fin

    http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2017/08/18/500084/taipei-is.htm

  39. Cloggie on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 3:10 am 

    Being a 4th generation Scandinavian it is a little embarrassing how Asians do better than any other demographic assimilating to the US. They also seem to be more race tolerant, hard working, and make great Americans.

    After the Jews of course, they are the best. Just ask Apneaman.

    But Boat, I thought that everybody is equal? And now according to you there are differences after all between “demographics”. I hope that at least the 4th generation Scandinavians can keep up with the Africans and Muslims.

    And while we are at it: what is an American anyway in your view? Sounds like anybody who manages to buy a plane ticket to the US will qualify. You are not afraid that this makes “American Identity” a little brittle? All these Muslims, Somalis, Chinese, Mexicans roaming your country… what’s their common denominator, apart from all having two legs?

    When I think of American identity or “Americana” as Alex Jones loves to put it, I see images of vast landscapes, cowboys, lasso’s, gun fights, horse riding, chasing Indians, railroad building towards the West (with indeed an occasional “Chinaman” in it), pretty lose fists, tumbleweed, wooden oil constructs, jackpumps, confederate flags, strong attachment to the bible, big ranches, huge herds of cattle, biting of the tip of a cigar and spitting it out, saying “yes ma’am” while tipping to your hat, salons with batwing doors. Later the sky scrapers, streets with numbers rather than with names, huge cars with enormous bonnets, cables on poles along the roads, Dukes of Hazard, chewing gum, Dallas series with enormous wealth at display.

    And now Boat, your are confident you can setup a coherent society where being a biped is defining hallmark of common identity? On a positive note, if somebody has issues with that you can always call him a racist, the communist smear-word.

    https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/898665835908055040

  40. Antius on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 3:43 am 

    “When I think of American identity or “Americana” as Alex Jones loves to put it, I see images of vast landscapes, cowboys, lasso’s, gun fights, horse riding, chasing Indians, railroad building towards the West (with indeed an occasional “Chinaman” in it), pretty lose fists, tumbleweed, wooden oil constructs, jackpumps, confederate flags, strong attachment to the bible, big ranches, huge herds of cattle, biting of the tip of a cigar and spitting it out, saying “yes ma’am” while tipping to your hat, salons with batwing doors. Later the sky scrapers, streets with numbers rather than with names, huge cars with enormous bonnets, cables on poles along the roads, Dukes of Hazard, chewing gum, Dallas series with enormous wealth at display.
    And now Boat, your are confident you can setup a coherent society where being a biped is defining hallmark of common identity? On a positive note, if somebody has issues with that you can always call him a racist, the communist smear-word.”

    LOL. Definitely one of Cloggies’ best posts on this board. It is both hilarious and puzzling though isn’t it? The way left-wing types like Boat hate anything that might remotely suggest that white westerners have their own ethnic identities. Yet they readily accept those qualities if people aren’t white?

  41. Davy on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 5:08 am 

    “Asians do better than any other demographic assimilating to the US.”

    I disagree because what is your criteria? If your criteria is making money by being professionals then I would say OK they are best at that maybe. There is far more to what is productive than that. I have some friends around here who are hardworking tradesmen. They may be welders or electricians. They do good work and have stable lives. Are welders not considered worthy? If you are going to be caught up in the race thing you are going to always end up with the extreme examples. Asians also lack creativity and avoid risk. Not all of them but as a class this is a case against them if that is what you are promoting. Should we be promoting that or would it be better say that is just a component of a well-rounded economy Asians don’t excel at.

    A significant US strength is our diversity because we have Asians in our economy or Mexicans. It is also a source of tension and divisiveness. There are tradeoffs in life and tension/diversity is one of them. We should try to optimize the mix but not call the mix bad. There is so many more causalities for behavior than just race and culture. White trailer trash and black gang bangers are a sociological construct. The race and culture may have something to do with it but not the main reason. This is why I am not a racist. Racist want to tag people not tag the society and then they want to use their criteria as the criteria to determine good and bad. There criteria is often IQ but I would say IQ has killed a planet so are you saying smart planet killing stupid people are your criteria?

    I do believe we have gone far enough with race mixing and I am against further immigration. I am not against anyone who has already made it here. I am against anymore making it here of any race, rich, poor, smart, or stupid. Race mixing is also homogenizing the world and destroying rich diversity of cultures that makes life interesting. Racism is so narrow minded and boring. The pragmatic respect of races says in an overcrowded, homogenized, and plastic world let’s not promote race mixing anymore. Enough is enough. Globalism was a mistake. We are killing a planet and our own richness because of it.

  42. Davy on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 5:14 am 

    “When I think of American identity or “Americana”

    Someone has been watching too much TV. Maybe if that someone would take a trip here and see normal people spread over a continent then he may have second thoughts to his narrow mindedness. Hollywood is destroying the world internally. Hollywood directors and their stuck up stars should be disgraced.

  43. Boat on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 10:44 pm 

    clog,

    And while we are at it: what is an American anyway in your view? Sounds like anybody who manages to buy a plane ticket to the US will qualify. You are not afraid that this makes “American Identity” a little brittle? All these Muslims, Somalis, Chinese, Mexicans roaming your country… what’s their common denominator, apart from all having two legs?

    I have no problems with hard working, law abiding humans of any race. They are the fabric of America. People like you like to stretch and tear at that fabric but so far you and your kind end up jailed or marginalized. You just add cost to society as the eternal conflict between good and bad continues.

  44. Boat on Sat, 19th Aug 2017 11:36 pm 

    Davy,

    “I do believe we have gone far enough with race mixing and I am against further immigration. I am not against anyone who has already made it here. I am against anymore making it here of any race, rich, poor, smart, or stupid. Race mixing is also homogenizing the world and destroying rich diversity of cultures that makes life interesting”

    I don’t buy any of your post. There is past culture, today’s culture and when races mix, bingo another culture. I don’t trust any human to be the decider on best, worse or what is interesting for all of humanity. No human that has ever lived or will live will ever have that on their resume.
    Immigration is an entirely different issue. Sustainability requires large population drops. The US would be much better off with population numbers of 250 million rather than 320 million and growing. Of course the rest of the world would need similar cuts.

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