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China may have 90 million fewer people than claimed
China’s population may be much smaller than official data suggests, according to a group of researchers, meaning the nation will be replaced by India as the world’s most populous country sooner than expected.
It may also mean the problems created by China’s rapidly ageing population and shrinking workforce are more serious than feared, according to the experts.
China’s real population may have been about 1.29 billion last year, 90 million fewer people than the official figure released by the National Bureau of Statistics, Yi Fuxian, a researcher at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said at a symposium at Peking University on Monday.
That’s about twice the size of Spain’s population, which is slightly over 46 million.
Yi, the author of Big Country with an Empty Nest, an influential book arguing that China is in need of more rather than fewer births, said China’s official population data after 1990 has been overstated.
His research suggested there were 377.6 million new births from 1991 to 2016, less than the official figure of 464.8 million.
Yi’s theory of overstated government data was echoed by other researchers attending the forum which called for the removal of population controls and improved data quality.
According to official statistics, India’s population reached 1.33 billion last year, compared with China’s official figure of 1.37 billion in 2015.
China has gradually loosened the decades old one-child policy since 2011 as its population started to age and the labour force shrank.
Parents are now able to have two children, but the central government has still refrained from completely lifting birth control.
China has the world’s largest population aged over 60. This section of society accounted for 15.5 per cent of the Chinese population in 2014. The United Nations estimates about 500 million people in China’s population will be over 60 by the middle of the century.
The low birthrate has led to a shrinking workforce, with cheap labour previously one of the mainstays underpinning China’s rapid economic growth over the past three decades.
“The government has overestimated the birth rate and underestimated the speed of demographic changes,” said Li Jianxin, a demographer at Peking University and vocal opponent of China’s family planning policy.
The inaccuracy of the data resulted in the failure of the authorities to take timely, corrective measures, he said.
Liang Zhongtang, a researcher at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, also questioned the accuracy of the official birth data.
“The population data since the adaption of one-child policy has been seriously false and the family planning report has been overstated by 30 per cent,” said Liang. “The birth control policy which has last nearly four decades is not in accordance with reality. It is imperative that the government should abandon the family planning system.”
22 Comments on "China may have 90 million fewer people than claimed"
onlooker on Tue, 23rd May 2017 9:31 am
Is that so. Whopee
Cloggie on Tue, 23rd May 2017 11:24 am
Aren’t these people registered with a “social security number” clipped to their earlobe?
Actually they do:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identification_number#People.27s_Republic_of_China
To their credit, the Chinese have not joined this gender insanity:
The sequential code is odd for males and even for females.
So how is it possible to miss 90 million?
And don’t they have some Soros/Apneaman types who insist that China needs to combat aging with importing hordes of people from elsewhere?
Apneaman on Tue, 23rd May 2017 11:47 am
The empress of reality television
China’s transgender Oprah
As an army colonel who became a woman, she exemplifies a society in flux
http://www.economist.com/news/china/21716633-army-colonel-who-became-woman-she-exemplifies-society-flux-chinas-transgender-oprah
“New York-based NGO Asia Catalyst estimates that there are more than 4 million transgender individuals in China.”
http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1485/dating-while-trans-china
Apneaman on Tue, 23rd May 2017 11:48 am
The White Genocide Conspiracy Theory And Why It’s Nonsense
https://whistlinginthewind.org/2017/05/04/the-white-genocide-conspiracy-theory-and-why-its-nonsense/
Davy on Tue, 23rd May 2017 11:49 am
China is screwed with demographics per the status quo. Too many old people supported by too few young. The US and Europe are in the same boat but with far fewer people. That is the status quo. If you look at our reality of a collapse process to a postmodern then China needs a population demographically weighted to the younger age groups with a population of 400MIL or less reflecting a premodern population circa 1900. The “less” is injected because China has destroyed it environment more than any other major power. This means maybe 300MIL is the number. This is a transition number also to an even lower number as the planetary system decays further and climate becomes locally uninhabitable depending on the location.
Most people don’t look at population this way. It is mostly looked at with status quo references of a continual increase to 9-11BIL then stabilizing. Economist are not even worried about the gross number they are just concerned with the age mix. I look at population as Peak “NOW” with around maybe 400MIL more people within the next 5 years then a terminal decline to bellow 1BIL depending on how systematic decay plays out and the degree of planetary failure and climate instability. Call that doom but it is honest doom.
Apneaman on Tue, 23rd May 2017 12:00 pm
clog faggot, where would the white man be without the Chinese getting the ball rolling?
Top 20 Ancient Chinese Inventions
“Ancient China held leading positions in many fields in studying nature in the world. Besides
the four great inventions – papermaking, printing, gunpowder and the compass, Ancient China
contributed countless other inventions to the world, how many other creations do you know?
Below is a list of the 20 inventions created by ancient Chinese and some may surprise you.”
1. Paper Making
2. Movable Type Printing 960-1279 AD
3. Gunpowder 1000 A.D
4. Compass 1100 A.D.
5. Alcohol 2000 BC－1600 BC
6. Mechanical Clock 725 A.D.
7. Tea Production 2,737 BC
7. Tea Production 2,737 BC
9. Umbrella 1,700 years ago
10. Acupuncture 2300 years ago
11. Iron smelting 1050 BC－256 BC
12. Porcelain 581 – 618 AD
13. Earthquake Detector 132 A D
14. Rocket 228 A. D.
15. Bronze 1700 B.C.
16. The Kite 3,000 years ago
17. The Seed Drill 3500 years ago
18. Row Crop Farming 6 Century BC
19. Toothbrush 1498 in China
20. Paper Money 9th century A.D.
http://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib09/UT01001306/Centricity/Domain/329/Chinese%20Inventions%20Article.pdf
http://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib09/UT01001306/Centricity/Domain/329/Chinese%20Inventions%20Article.pdf
The Chinese may be #1, yet again, but it’ll only be for a minute because the humans will be extinct before this century is out.
Apneaman on Tue, 23rd May 2017 12:31 pm
China is a mighty Mega Cancer.
Too fast, too soon: how China’s growth led to the Tianjin disaster
The 2015 warehouse explosion in Tianjin was one of the worst manmade disasters in Chinese history – and exposed the darker side of rapid urbanisation
“.. 173 people died at Ruihai International Logistics, a warehouse that was storing thousands of tonnes of hazardous chemicals. Hundreds more people were injured and thousands displaced on 12 August. Videos of the explosion went viral on social media. To the world, the tragedy became known as the Tianjin explosion. To locals, it’s 8/12.”
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/may/23/city-exploded-china-growth-tianjin-disaster-inevitable
JuanP on Tue, 23rd May 2017 3:53 pm
I remember that when I read China’s last official census I was blown away by the fact that the margin of error was +-150 million. A 90 million error is well within China’s government official error margin. I don’t understand how the margin of error can be so big but that is the government’s official data.
Cloggie on Tue, 23rd May 2017 3:58 pm
clog faggot, where would the white man be without the Chinese getting the ball rolling?
TalmudTurd, you are so right in pointing out that China was very great… 3000 years ago and they no doubt will take over from the US soon. But hey, this now. A few parameters:
Global minimum wage distribution (in euro):
France….9.76
Holland…9.52
Belgium…9.28
Germany…8.84
UK……..8.79
Canada….7.64
USA…….6.84
China…..1.78
Russia….0.62
Cumulative comparative accomplishments throughout history:
https://s18.postimg.org/ieq72v70p/Charles_Murray.png
Distribution medals 2016 Olympics:
http://www.medaltracker.eu/
EU….325
USA…121
China..70
And your pathetic “supermenschen” from Israel: 2 lousy bronze medals.lol
We have discussed it before: without Nazi scientist, America would not placed a man on the moon.
China hardly has a car or aviation industry.
Europe has been taking the lead in renewable energy and will likely be the first to operate a “solar energy base”
Or to summarize the above: and now on your knees.
The Chinese may be #1, yet again, but it’ll only be for a minute because the humans will be extinct before this century is out.
I don’t see much future for your tribe either.
Cloggie on Tue, 23rd May 2017 4:28 pm
New US-Russian communication channel discovered:
https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/867095324267032577
Apneaman on Tue, 23rd May 2017 5:51 pm
Ya clog, the medals thing, like the EU is a country. There you go again with your weaselly yellow-belly cocksucking ways. You are not a man. Lying deceiving little bitch.
CIA-MOLE on Tue, 23rd May 2017 9:53 pm
@Ap ignore clog, bro. That’s my advise. Clog is a true believer, the kind The Longshore man wrote about.
Clog said he was a SJW liberal and eventually gravitate toward race “realism”.
Basically he admitted that his previous political position was wrong and he abandoned it.
There’s a possibility that upon abandoning a false paradigm, one may stumble upon another false paradigm.
Let him swim in his “new” paradigm. I love you, I want you to be happy and I do this by disengaging clogg.
DerHundistlos on Tue, 23rd May 2017 10:48 pm
Theedrich,
You are a mess……
FYI it’s time to find a new schtick now that the bastion of conservative journalism, Fox News has dropped the Seth Rich BS story. Fox News officially retracted its conspiracy story on the 2016 murder of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich. The “fair and balanced” Fox said, “the Seth Rich story was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed,”
How about you and Clogged returning to PizzaGate.
Truly pathetic.
AFDF on Tue, 23rd May 2017 10:52 pm
Everyone lies but more so with China and Russia.
I’m more honest in general because I do it subconsciously. I wasn’t born this way but it came about through training.
I’m a techie and machines don’t like being lied to. Overtime I just be honest by default
Cloggie on Wed, 24th May 2017 2:20 am
Ya clog, the medals thing, like the EU is a country. There you go again with your weaselly yellow-belly cocksucking ways. You are not a man. Lying deceiving little bitch
Oh la la, the ApneaThing is mad, meaning cornered. I could of course argue that the EU has a currency, abolished national borders, has a parliament with 80% of European legislation now originates from Brussels, a president and has begun setting up an army. So it damn well looks like a country, although admittedly it still has a small purse with a budget of merely 1.5% EU GDP.
But why would the Olympic medal table have looked much different if the EU had acted as a single country? You know in advance which people have the best chance of a medal. And relax, there is no reason to have inferiority complexes. After all sport was in invented in Europe (what isn’t?).
CIA-MOLE says I love you, I want you to be happy and I do this by disengaging clogg.
Why don’t you two set up a charming little household together. And CIA-MOLE, if you want to make the TalmudTurd happy… in the morning he loves his eggs fondled.
Go Speed Racer on Wed, 24th May 2017 3:16 am
Not enough slaves, to build plastic crap for USA idiots.
Hubert on Wed, 24th May 2017 7:36 am
Chinese suicide rate = 250,000 a year.
Sissyfuss on Wed, 24th May 2017 10:25 am
The story of China having 90 million less peasants than previously thought is akin to me finding out my toenails didn’t grow as quickly as I had deduced so they don’t need clipping yet.
Kenz300 on Wed, 24th May 2017 12:58 pm
India’s population growth is out of control.
They need to learn from China how slowing population growth lifts people out of poverty.
Cloggie on Wed, 24th May 2017 4:17 pm
The difference in success between China and India can be easily explained from this:
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
Egalitarians hate these kind of explanations.
Davy on Wed, 24th May 2017 6:14 pm
What is your definition of success? Racist hate these kind of questions.
DerHundistlos on Thu, 25th May 2017 9:13 pm
Kenz,
You are all too correct, but only after they have gotten thumped will they begin to learn.
A teacher friend decided to spend her summer teaching in rural India. She lasted all of 1/1/2 weeks before she was on the phone begging me to get her out of the hell hole since her return flight was not until the end of her term and the ticket was not adjustable. The heat was unimaginable, her housing was a cinder block room with a steel bed, chair, and a single light bulb dangling from the ceiling. although the electric was intermittent. The worst was the masses and masses of people. People shitting and pissing wherever they pleased. She always had hundreds following her wanting to touch her blond hair and fair skin. The thing that pushed her over the edge was the unimaginable cruelty inflicted on dogs, cats, along with wild animals. Instead of teach, she was spending all of her time trying to help all the poor animals. The poor lady really suffered from a nervous breakdown so of course I got her on a flight immediately back home.