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crossthread
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:20 pm |
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Here in Wilmington N.C. we are running into shortages... We are a MAJOR Port for NC (besides Morehead City and Charleston on either side),, ALOT (60%), of our port off loadings are nothing but GAS and distillates...
We are now experienceing shortages here in Wilmington and Surrounding areas/counties...... Since I've read page 3 at 5 PM EST... I've got a gas terminal just 100 yards down the street,, NO Ships are arriving, NOR are here off loading... at this time... Gas is at 2.99 and,, well rising...
On a side note,, Local Marnias have STOPPED selling fuel for boats...And are refusing money... 
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:34 pm |
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richardmmm wrote: the gas shortages don't add up at all. the US has 194 million barrels of gasoline inventory. That is 8.1 billion gallons of gas on hand.
I wonder how much of that was stored on the gulf coast?
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:04 pm |
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richardmmm wrote: the gas shortages don't add up at all. the US has 194 million barrels of gasoline inventory. That is 8.1 billion gallons of gas on hand.
Yes it does. Those "inventories" need somehow get to the consumers.
Two main pipelines down from Gulf to north and east. People there hoarding, panicking, and buying gas stations empty. Simple as that.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:10 pm |
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MrBean wrote: richardmmm wrote: the gas shortages don't add up at all. the US has 194 million barrels of gasoline inventory. That is 8.1 billion gallons of gas on hand. Yes it does. Those "inventories" need somehow get to the consumers. Two main pipelines down from Gulf to north and east. People there hoarding, panicking, and buying gas stations empty. Simple as that.
a localised shortage is not a national shortage or any kind of real crisis.
it's just a bit of local logistical and distribution trouble until things are sorted out again. there is a difference between the two and the media is haming it up quite a bit.
don't suppose they mentioned that there is plenty of gas available and they are going to truck it over.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 423 Location: France
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MrBean wrote: Simple as that.
There's nothing simple for the conspiracy theorists. 
_________________ Freedom is up to the length of the chain.
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crossthread
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:12 pm |
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My Local news 11 PM EST...Wilmington NC...
Local Gas Stations Running Out of Gas
AUGUST 31, 2005 --One GoGas in Wilmington has no gas. At least if you're filling up with regular and premium.
It was bumper to bumper just moments before they closed the pumps. An employee at GoGas says this is the wrath of Hurricane Katrina in Wilmington. link
Governor says Gas Shortage is Looming Statewide
Aug 31, 2005, 09:34 PM link
Fuel Frenzy Takes Toll on Airlines Aug 31, 2005, 05:44 PM link
WHAT SAY WE NOW???? 
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Eli
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:37 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4005 Location: In a van down by the river
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The Colonial Pipeline has a capacity to move 2.35 million barrels per day.
It would take 11,000 tanker trucks leaving every two minutes to transport that much fuel.
The pipeline cannot be replaced with trucks.
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richardmmm
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:39 pm |
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it's also logically impossible that pipelines from the hurricane area that has only 10% of the nations refineries is responsible for nationwide gas shortages.
the other 90% of refineries are still in action and there is plenty of inventory.
it is also interesting that whilst the press is harking on about lack of refinery capacity in the US, that over 2% of gaoline supplies were exported (shipped overseas) in June 2005.
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richardmmm
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:40 pm |
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MrBean wrote: richardmmm wrote: the gas shortages don't add up at all. the US has 194 million barrels of gasoline inventory. That is 8.1 billion gallons of gas on hand. Yes it does. Those "inventories" need somehow get to the consumers. Two main pipelines down from Gulf to north and east. People there hoarding, panicking, and buying gas stations empty. Simple as that.
a localised shortage is not a national shortage or any kind of real crisis. it's just a bit of local logistical and distribution trouble until things are sorted out again.
there is a difference between the two and the media is haming it up quite a bit. don't suppose they mentioned that there is plenty of gas available and they are going to truck it over.
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richardmmm
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:47 pm |
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link
peak oil = price manipulation and consumer fear to sustain a high price.
very simple salesmanship.
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Post subject: Re: Fuel Shortages News and Discussion Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:52 pm |
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Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 423 Location: France
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richardmmm wrote: peak oil = price manipulation and consumer fear to sustain a high price.
And who manipulates the price ? "them" of course. 
_________________ Freedom is up to the length of the chain.
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MicroHydro
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Post subject: Re: Gas Rationing. Now today Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:38 pm |
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Nice time to buy a bicycle before there are runs on them too.
_________________ "The world is changed... I feel it in the water... I feel it in the earth... I smell it in the air... Much that once was, is lost..." - Galadriel
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Post subject: Re: Gas Rationing. Now today Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:46 pm |
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MicroHydro wrote: Nice time to buy a bicycle before there are runs on them too.
A bicycle's a little too big of a purchase for there to be a "run" on them, I'd think... at least if you're talking about Trek, Cannondale, those types. There may be a run on Huffys and Wal-Mart bikes.
My bike's fully working except it needs a new bottom bracket  -- I wonder if there's going to be a run on Cannondale parts. That would suck.
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Post subject: Re: Gas Rationing. Now today Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:10 am |
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Muffloj wrote: I just got a phone call and was told we may be rationing gas as of 7:00 this afternoon only 10 gallons at a time. any one heard this . is it true?
Ha! That's more than a fill up for my Honda Civic EX.
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Post subject: Re: Gas Rationing. Now today Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:36 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 572 Location: Australia
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My heart goes out the the afflicted, but is there a chance, just a chance, that this catastrophe will get people thinking seriously about PO and the future of the world they live in, and the need to prepare for change, internally and externally?
If so, it may be a blessing in disguise.
I pray so.
_________________ Son of the Enlightenment
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