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  Topic: Do you eat meat?
Homesteader

Replies: 218
Views: 2318

PostForum: Overshoot & Carrying Capacity   Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:11 am   Subject: Re: Do you eat meat?
Or you could grow crops instead of grass. The arguments keep getting sillier & sillier.
That is one of the more illogical ill-informed statements on the thread.
  Topic: The price of oil is falling, right?
Homesteader

Replies: 15
Views: 814

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:27 am   Subject: Re: The price of oil is falling, right?
I'm sure Thunderhorse, Petrobras and the New England offshore oilfields will save us. Oh, and ANWR
  Topic: USDA forecast: record corn yield in the U.S.
Homesteader

Replies: 30
Views: 994

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:14 pm   Subject: Re: USDA forecast: record corn yield in the U.S.

Doom and gloomers are wrong, once again. But this has become a routine by now. Cool

Another example of deathless prose that shall live on in infamy.
  Topic: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Homesteader

Replies: 1335
Views: 40977

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:51 pm   Subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Anyone interested in the whys and wherefores of privatization of the prison system should read here: [url=http://www.dunwalke.com/9_Cornell_Corrections.htm]Cornell
and here: [url=http://www.dunwalke ...
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:23 am   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
sorry, you've gone on the ignore list.
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:21 am   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heat


Of course. I'm just pointing out that it isn't very useful to lament about the absence of oilfields producing royalties that might be used for heating assistance in New England without facing the ...
  Topic: USDA forecast: record corn yield in the U.S.
Homesteader

Replies: 30
Views: 994

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:09 am   Subject: Re: USDA forecast: record corn yield in the U.S.
It will be interesting to see what the yield per acre is.
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:20 am   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heat
Good, you conceded the point that New England doesn't have any oil fields. So where will the funds come from?

Not so. Its foolish to claim that New England doesn't have any oil fields, when no o ...
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:18 pm   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heat


Thats a problem all right.

Perhaps the New ENgland states should make heating assistance available to all who need it, regardless of skin color or religous belief or ethnicity or income level ...
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:46 am   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heat


Thats a problem all right.

Perhaps the New ENgland states should make heating assistance available to all who need it, regardless of skin color or religous belief or ethnicity or income level ...
  Topic: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heating prices
Homesteader

Replies: 105
Views: 3210

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:50 pm   Subject: Re: NYT: New England’s own Katrina disaster - heat


Thats a problem all right.

Perhaps the New ENgland states should make heating assistance available to all who need it, regardless of skin color or religous belief or ethnicity or income level ...
  Topic: Oil per capita
Homesteader

Replies: 7
Views: 442

PostForum: Peak Oil Discussion   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:41 pm   Subject: Re: Oil per capita


Is there really improved efficiency or is it just the result of moving energy intensive industries to Mexico or China where they don't show up in the US consumption figures, but the US is still th ...
  Topic: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
Homesteader

Replies: 1335
Views: 40977

PostForum: Current Events   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:36 pm   Subject: Re: Russia Georgia Ossetia Alkhazia Ukraine War
here's what we're doing so far (also answers some of the questions we had on this thread of how we were going to fly in the iraqi-based georgian troops):


The Pentagon said it had finished flying ...
  Topic: Why Stone Age?
Homesteader

Replies: 150
Views: 1592

PostForum: Overshoot & Carrying Capacity   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:30 pm   Subject: Re: Why Stone Age?
Traditional skills are lost over the span of one generation.


I make things for a living. It's easier to learn practical skills from someone who has them, than from a book. Earlier someone cited ...
  Topic: Do you eat meat?
Homesteader

Replies: 218
Views: 2318

PostForum: Overshoot & Carrying Capacity   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:39 pm   Subject: Re: Do you eat meat?
No, I'm not talking about the subsistence hunter or small farmer, I'm talking about the vast overwhelming majority of meat eaters who still insist on eating the product of the horrifying practice of ...
 
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