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kpeavey
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:12 am |
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Quote: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. This health care bill goes against the principles under which the nation was founded. -The death panel removes our right to Life. -Incarceration for refusing to be subjugated by an insurance corporation removes our right to Liberty. -The oppressive cost of the plan infringes upon our ability to pursue Hapiness. Should the government enact this legislation, an administrative department will be established to oversee enforcement. Quote: He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. You pay or you go to JAIL!? Quote: for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. Payment of insurance premiums will be mandated. Quote: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: This bill is an affront to the Blessings of Liberty. Quote: all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable Add it to the pile. It won't last much longer.
_________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever." -George Orwell, 1984 _____
twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? -George Yeats
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AlexdeLarge
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:43 am |
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Just as long as illegal aliens don't have to pay...............why that would be unamerican.!  HopeNchange
_________________ Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.
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Isochroma
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Post subject: Chemo Cure Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:13 pm |
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Chemo ought to be free for anyone below an income threshold, and mandatory in non-work prisons - if there are any.
Chemo is an excellent population control method. It kills 90%+ of its victims, as any cellular poison would. And of course it's enormously more profitable to chemical companies than cheap poisons.
Thus the taxpayer (read: non-rich) must enrich enormous private enterprise by paying extortionate rates for a lethal poison to be administered to the victims of corporate pollution-induced cancer, so that they may die in the most expensive way possible to maximize profit - or survive with chemo-brain damage.
No matter how he wiggles, today's Everyman will have his blood sucked out by the State and its Corporates on behalf of their investor classes.
The goal is to eliminate superfluous classes, and there's more of them every day. They will be profitably worked in superprisons or profitably poisoned in hospitals or their homes.
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Ludi
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:59 am |
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kpeavey wrote: -The death panel removes our right to Life.. What "death panel"?
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kpeavey
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:53 am |
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220-215 the Bill passes the House
Ludi-Wait for it.
_________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever." -George Orwell, 1984 _____
twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? -George Yeats
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Ludi
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:53 am |
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kpeavey wrote: Ludi-Wait for it. Who is planning to add a death panel to the bill?
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kpeavey
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:21 am |
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It does not have to be part of the bill. A virtual death panel will develop through bureaucratic policy decisions, administrative limits, departmental expansion, and budgetary considerations.
This is not a free lunch. Its the biggest blunder in the history of the US.
_________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever." -George Orwell, 1984 _____
twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? -George Yeats
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Ludi
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:23 am |
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kpeavey wrote: A virtual death panel will develop through bureaucratic policy decisions, administrative limits, departmental expansion, and budgetary considerations. Because there's "death panels" in all the other developed nations?
_________________ Queen of the Climate Change Cult
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"If you plan on moving to Detroit, maybe you should train ahead of time by playing Fallout 3." - rangerone314
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allenwrench
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:12 am |
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DomusAlbion wrote: Here's the bottom line young whiners. You will pay if/when this horrible bill is passed by the federal legislature.
As for my family. We have excellent health coverage through my wife’s work. We're both "Baby Boomers" and we don't plan to retire until we're in our 80's so it's doubtful that we'll be using government paid healthcare for some time. On top of that I've vowed to self terminate if I become too ill. There's no point in dragging out misery.
So don't worry you won't have to carry me on your weak little backs, poor babies. The whiny, weak young guy was right my friend. Many of the people in the uninsured camp were once insured. But through some hardship they can no longer afford the average annual premiums of $13,375.00. You know, you may not have med insurance someday and be in the camp of the uninsured. And even if you are lucky enough to have some med pay, it may be shockingly different in benefits from what you have now. Here is something to consider to broaden the minds of those stuck in the tunnel vision of their own little world. "Kaiser forecast that the yearly family premium for health insurance could reach $30,803.00 in ten years if the 8.7% annual increase of the previous 10 years were to continue." http://www.kff.org/pullingittogether/091509_altman.cfmAnd lets go out a further 10 years. Now, the average premium is $70,939.00 per year at an 8.7% annual increase. Some of you say that is ridiculous? Well, why so? If it has happened on a continual and regular year in - year out basis for decades...what will stop it? Once the greedy capitalists have the penalty of jail on their side, they will fleece the public as never before.
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rangerone314
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Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:41 am |
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AlexdeLarge wrote: Just as long as illegal aliens don't have to pay...............why that would be unamerican.!  HopeNchangeWill illegal aliens be subject to arrest if they don't buy health insurance? LOL
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