|
|
|
News |
| |
|
Discussions |
| |
|
Resources |
| |
|
Members |
| | |
|
| |
|
|
|
Support PeakOil.com Visit Our Advertisers
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
View unanswered posts | View active topics
| Author |
Message |
|
3aidlillahi
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:45 am |
|
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 1573
|
DomusAlbion wrote: Pretorian wrote: The general idea of insurance-- i. e that healthy people pay for sick people's healthcare -- is an asbomination (sic). Think of it as paying forward for when you're old and sick. At the least the young should (and will be soon) paying for catastrophic insurance. Young, healthy people are being struck down by severe illnesses all the time. And falling off their bikes, being hit by cars, falling out of dorm rooms from too much drink. They use the system, they should help pay for it. Instead they want to buy their iPods, Gameboys, wiis, vacations to Cancun (where they contract syphilis), or get tattoos (and contract Hepatitis) The young would be happy to buy insurance. On one condition - the older generations pay for the debt which they created rather than passing it to the future generations. But as the system stands right now, I don't think that the youth should have to (nor even could) pay for the boomer's and their children's massive debt and pay for their medical bills as well. How exactly are we supposed to pay for insurance by the way? The older generations' greed caused the implosion of the economy and now more than 50% of the youth can't find work.
_________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
DomusAlbion
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:56 am |
|
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 1705 Location: Nez Perce Nation
|
|
Here's the bottom line young whiners. You will pay if/when this horrible bill is passed by the federal legislature.
As for my family. We have excellent health coverage through my wife’s work. We're both "Baby Boomers" and we don't plan to retire until we're in our 80's so it's doubtful that we'll be using government paid healthcare for some time. On top of that I've vowed to self terminate if I become too ill. There's no point in dragging out misery.
So don't worry you won't have to carry me on your weak little backs, poor babies.
_________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Ferretlover
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:04 am |
|
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:00 am Posts: 5097 Location: On a southern coastline
|
Sixstrings wrote: I have a strange feeling that the uninsured are going to end up worse than before, forced to buy a crappy plan under penalty of fines or jail I don't see this goiing through--unless there's some other activities planned that need this for a foundation. Just where are people, especially those with no jobs, going to come up with the money? At least people with no homes are mobile and may take some time to be caught checked. And, with the prisons all over crowded, where are these people going to be housed for their sentences? Oh, wait, Gitmo will be opening up soon... 
_________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Nefarious
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:17 am |
|
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 330 Location: The Deep South
|
|
"Sir you have been found not to have health insurance.I sentence you to be incarcerated for one year, where you will be confined with thieves, murderers,rapist, and others of your ilk. You are a scourge to this society. May you use this time wisely to reflect upon your crimes and come out a rehabilitated and productive member of society ."
_________________ “No man or woman who tries to pursue an ideal in his or her own way is without enemies”
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
vision-master
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:22 am |
|
 |
| Master |
 |
Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 5783 Location: Out of this World
|
3aidlillahi wrote: The young would be happy to buy insurance. On one condition - the older generations pay for the debt which they created rather than passing it to the future generations. But as the system stands right now, I don't think that the youth should have to (nor even could) pay for the boomer's and their children's massive debt and pay for their medical bills as well. How exactly are we supposed to pay for insurance by the way? The older generations' greed caused the implosion of the economy and now more than 50% of the youth can't find work. Who paid for your insurance while in collage? 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
3aidlillahi
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:31 pm |
|
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 1573
|
Quote: Here's the bottom line young whiners. Looks like I hit someone's nerve. There's no reason to resort to name-calling. Quote: You will pay if/when this horrible bill is passed by the federal legislature. Nah, the bill is being pushed by Democrats. I'd be quite surprised if they could get anything substantial passed - even with a Super Duper Majority.
_________________ Riches are not from abundance of worldly goods, but from a contented mind.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Sixstrings
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:04 pm |
|
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 1699
|
|
Democrats? This healthcare travesty looks like what the John McCain plan was. I guess that makes sense, since the healthcare lobbyists were going to write the bill no matter who won the election.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
vision-master
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:27 pm |
|
 |
| Master |
 |
Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 5783 Location: Out of this World
|
Sixstrings wrote: Democrats? This healthcare travesty looks like what the John McCain plan was. I guess that makes sense, since the healthcare lobbyists were going to write the bill no matter who won the election. There won't be a public option, eveyone will have to buy into a private plan. 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Pretorian
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:29 pm |
|
Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 2584 Location: Somewhere there
|
DomusAlbion wrote: Pretorian wrote: The general idea of insurance-- i. e that healthy people pay for sick people's healthcare -- is an asbomination (sic). Think of it as paying forward for when you're old and sick. really, a social security kind of a scam huh. How about those who never get to get old or sick? How about those who would prefer to have an extra (hefty) penny in their youth to an extra month worth of chemotherapy in their old age? DomusAlbion wrote: At the least the young should (and will be soon) paying for catastrophic insurance. If hospital charges for these " catastrophs" like getting siphilis , falling off the bike or getting hit by the car were anywhere near somewhat realistic, there would be no need whatsoever for a " catastrophic " insurance.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Revi
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:06 am |
|
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4255 Location: Maine
|
|
At least they will get health care while they are in jail.
Isn't this like a debtor's prison?
_________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
emersonbiggins
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:15 am |
|
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 5320 Location: Dallas
|
If young people are forced to pay for old people's healthcare, then it's only fair that those paying should decide when/how old people should die... 
_________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
George Carlin
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
vision-master
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:19 am |
|
 |
| Master |
 |
Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 5783 Location: Out of this World
|
|
Your generation is so screwed,,,,,,,,,up..
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
emersonbiggins
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:52 am |
|
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 5320 Location: Dallas
|
At the very least, can we agree on no more "free" Viagra for old curmudgeons? Then our discussion can move on to the resale of non-vital organs as a source of revenue for paying down catastrophic medical debts.
_________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
George Carlin
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Sixstrings
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:01 pm |
|
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 1699
|
emersonbiggins wrote: ::twisted: At the very least, can we agree on no more "free" Viagra for old curmudgeons? Then our discussion can move on to the resale of non-vital organs as a source of revenue for paying down catastrophic medical debts. Oh sheesh, are you saying the medicare prescription benefit covers viagra?? That's ridiculous.. if you want to have intercourse at 70 years of age, you should fork over the $10, not taxpayers.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
emersonbiggins
|
Post subject: Re: Those who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:20 pm |
|
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 5320 Location: Dallas
|
Sixstrings wrote: Oh sheesh, are you saying the medicare prescription benefit covers viagra?? That's ridiculous.. if you want to have intercourse at 70 years of age, you should fork over the $10, not taxpayers. I remember there being some outrage over this, and not sure if it shook out or not but, yes, Viagra was/is covered under Medicare. linkAnd as if that wasn't enough...
_________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
George Carlin
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|