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Graeme
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Post subject: Green Berets: Military Brass Urge American Energy Revolution Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:02 am |
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Green Berets: Military Brass Urge American Energy RevolutionQuote: Retired military officers are urging the U.S. to get serious about changing the country’s approach to energy use.
In a new report from Alexandria, Va.-based Center for Naval Analyses, a bevy of high-ranking former Army and Navy officials stress that the country’s reliance on oil poses a threat to national security and undermines the country’s ability to wage war. That’s because the hegemony of oil empowers plenty of dodgy nations, and because it imposes huge (and expensive) logistics strains on the U.S. military, as made clear in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The report calls for the Pentagon to lead a shift away from oil and toward renewable sources of energy—not so much to save the planet as to make it easier to defend.
What’s really interesting about the report is that it highlights how important the Pentagon could be in blazing a new energy trail. The U.S. Department of Defense is the world’s single-largest energy consumer, so any shift in energy use by the Pentagon automatically has massive repercussions. That’s especially true when it comes to new technologies: http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/05/20/green-berets-military-brass-urge-american-energy-revolution/
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efarmer
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Post subject: Re: Military demands details on soldiers' private guns Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:45 am |
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Dear Jotopay, Your questions about gas impingement systems versus the legacy piston system and about the differences between virgins and the sexual virtuosos have had me thinking Jotopay. Not being an expert in either area I was forced to fall back on my own limited, direct, experience.
I once inadvertently employed my impingement gas system in the midst of lovemaking and it negated the opportunity to field my piston driven system immediately as well as compromised further firings in the near term with the exception of test rounds. Needless to say, my test subject was neither aroused or satisfied by any portion of the turn of events, and I therefore can not imagine how multiple partners could be entertained based on this experiment.
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Jotapay
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Post subject: Re: Military demands details on soldiers' private guns Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:57 pm |
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Sixstrings
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Post subject: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:29 am |
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  Quote: Aided by "smart drugs," enhanced with prosthetics, and protected by a lightweight suit of armor, this soldier of the future possesses near super-human capabilities and weapons that would make even Iron Man jealous. He's suited up in an "exoskeleton" - essentially a Storm Trooper-esque external shell - that allows him to carry heavy loads. Electronics integrated in his outfit allow for simultaneous language translation, automatic identification of potential foes, and video-game-like targeting. It's all part of the Army's starry-eyed vision of grunts 20 years from now, and it's just one aspect of the Pentagon's ambitious thinking about technologies that will transform the way the military fights. There are also plans for advanced robotic aircraft; missiles that travel seven times the speed of sound; and ship- and aircraft-based laser weapons that could blast missiles out of the sky. These aren't fantasy. Many of these technologies are plausible, or in development. Whether the military can afford them is an entirely different question. link The hypersonic cruise missile makes a lot of sense -- being able to launch from the US and reach any target on the planet within an hour. But then, I imagine each single missile would cost a fortune. So from the looks of this new missile and the other stuff, it seems like there's no end in sight to our massive military budget. Only thing about these plans that really gives me the creeps is the opening line in the piece, "aided by smart drugs." Mmkay.. does that mean the US military is actually considering enhancing soldiers' performance with drugs??? Now that is a very scary and dangerous road to go down.
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Gorm
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:41 am |
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The US has a total dominace in all military ascpets, and have had fore quite some time. Dont you guys have more pressing problems than futher develop the means to go to war? You should know that starting wars is a drag on karma.
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Sixstrings
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:25 am |
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Gorm wrote: The US has a total dominace in all military ascpets, and have had fore quite some time. Dont you guys have more pressing problems than futher develop the means to go to war? You should know that starting wars is a drag on karma. Well you know, the people who make these decisions are not peakoil.com members.  For myself, all I can do is vote for presidential candidates whom I think are the least likely to start up unnecessary wars. But even if we avoid the "unnecessary" wars, the fact remains that the US has given security guarantees to quite a few nations -- yours is one of them. Did you know, for example, that the US guarantees the security of Taiwan? If China ever attempts to retake Taiwan by force, that means war. And then there's Israel and much of the middle east, all of Western Europe, most of Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, and now Iraq and Afghanistan, and numerous other countries I can't recall at the moment. That's a LOT of territory to defend.
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:47 am |
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The vast majority of the supposed advanced technology has nothing to do with improving fighting ability or improving the lives of the troops. They are designed to extract the most money from the public. It is a business model that the US has perfected. That grunts are used ( and die) in the use of this crap is just a cost of doing business.
As for total dominance? How's that working for you? There seems to be a model of diminishing returns working here. The more the US dominates ( ie: murders indiscriminately) the fewer people are intimidated. Hmmmm, not a particularly good R.O.(fiat)E.
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Windmills
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:01 am |
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I vote for muskets as the future of weaponry. Much more sustainable. The ingredients in gunpowder can basically be grown.
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pstarr
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:13 am |
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RdSnt wrote: The vast majority of the supposed advanced technology has nothing to do with improving fighting ability or improving the lives of the troops. They are designed to extract the most money from the public. It is a business model that the US has perfected. That grunts are used ( and die) in the use of this crap is just a cost of doing business.
As for total dominance? How's that working for you? There seems to be a model of diminishing returns working here. The more the US dominates ( ie: murders indiscriminately) the fewer people are intimidated. Hmmmm, not a particularly good R.O.(fiat)E. +1 Wrong business model. New paradigm needed. Got to 'green' the vehicles--go hybrid. Sails on the ships. What's with that HyperChronic Cruise Missile? It need a chill.
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ian807
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:33 am |
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All quite spiffy, and meaningless if there's not enough energy to build or run them.
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smallpoxgirl
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:54 am |
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Sixstrings wrote: Only thing about these plans that really gives me the creeps is the opening line in the piece, "aided by smart drugs." Mmkay.. does that mean the US military is actually considering enhancing soldiers' performance with drugs??? Now that is a very scary and dangerous road to go down. Old news. This MSNBC article is from 2003: linkMilitary use of amphetamines dates back at least to WWII.
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Sixstrings
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:30 pm |
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smallpoxgirl wrote: Sixstrings wrote: Only thing about these plans that really gives me the creeps is the opening line in the piece, "aided by smart drugs." Mmkay.. does that mean the US military is actually considering enhancing soldiers' performance with drugs??? Now that is a very scary and dangerous road to go down. Old news. This MSNBC article is from 2003: linkMilitary use of amphetamines dates back at least to WWII. Well, that's a separate article. And it had to do with amphetamines, which don't concern me (it's medically established what the older meds do and don't do). To be more specific, what I worry about is other kinds of "performance enchancement." PTSD is such a problem that I wouldn't be surprised if the military will / is look into new psychoactive meds for troops as preventative treatment. And there could be cognitive enhancing meds on the drawing board as well. We've learned many times that the long-term affects of drugs take twenty or thirty years to really become evident. And some drugs, like Vioxx, start causing real harm shortly after their FDA approval. So my concern is that if the military is looking into state of the art enhancement drugs for troops, these drugs will just that -- state of the art. They won't have had enough time in trial to reasonably guarantee safety.
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:31 pm |
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Gorm wrote: The US has a total dominace in all military ascpets, and have had fore quite some time. Dont you guys have more pressing problems than futher develop the means to go to war? You should know that starting wars is a drag on karma. agreed. one of the few industries that offers anything close to a steady job in the US is defense contractors. corporate America circa 2009 favors those who have learned to Smile and Love the War.
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americandream
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:32 pm |
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Got ta pritect that right ta issue sub-prime derivatives at any cost u knows. 
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heroineworshipper
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Post subject: Re: A peek at future US military tech Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:31 pm |
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Good luck with those. Personally see US throwing sticks & stones in the future. Got to refinance those Fiats.
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