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I_Like_Plants
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Post subject: 'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way, of screwing up the USA! Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:08 am |
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(to the Oscar Meyer song)
My president has a first name, it's j-i-m-m-y
My president has a second name, it's c-a-r-t-e-r,
I love to hate him every day,
And if you ask me why I'll say,
'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way of screwing up the USA!
We were raised singing this!
OK, so we know things went in the tank under Carter's watch, but did he really screw up the USA? Or did he inherit problems caused by Nixon such as going off of the gold standard, historical events like the end of the Vietnam War and thus the withering of the military-industrial complex, and things in the Middle East caused by Israel?
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Post subject: Re: 'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way, of screwing up the USA! Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:42 am |
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Still 10 times the president George Bush could ever be
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Post subject: Re: 'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way, of screwing up the USA! Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:16 pm |
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he gets ridiculed for having paul volker do the short-term painful but long-term correct thing by raising interest rates to keep the economy from overheating and thereby keeping inflation and excess liquidity(bubbles) from happening. his economic policies were too complicated and correct for most of the public to understand.oil price shocks were beyond his ability ,or beyond his desire to mitigate. he could probably have worked a shady deal with opec to maintain low prices but I think he understood better than most the consequences of dealing with the devil.I (unlike most conservatives) at least give him credit for trying to rescue the hostages.He advocated energy conservation before most politicians had even heard of the concept. And don't forget he partied with Willie Nelson on the roof of the white house,how fooken' cool is that?
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Post subject: Re: 'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way, of screwing up the USA! Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:39 pm |
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I met Carter in the late '70's - both time at the White House no less
The 70's are the blueprint for the beginning of what is to come - and Carter is the pre-eminent example of why we are so very very f**ked.
'merkans don't want to hear the truth - it hurts their brains. So they didn't listen then and they won't listen now either.
Bend over boys.
_________________ "People are just bastards - bastard covered bastards with bastard filling."
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Post subject: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:05 am |
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I saw an interview today on CBC Newsworld with Heather Hiscox. Jimnmy Carter, at age 86 is coherent, thoughtful and engaged with the inteviewer. He has really put a lot of effort ito this new book, and he paints a lot of the background issues as to why the middle eaast struggle will ocntinue ad infinitum., unless social circusmtances are changed expecialy with the Palestinians.
It is a startling contrast to George W. Bush. Bush seems to either unfocused or he is trying to score short verbal javbs, which often don't fit into the context, as if he's been coached on what to say, but poorly coached. Also, at times, Bush seems to fall into a vacant expression. I really wonder wonder if Carter is not more astute right now to be president than is Bush.
I would not be surprised if Carter has written more books in his lifetime than Bush has read in his.
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:59 am |
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:20 pm |
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Quote: Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force. This, the key sentence of the Carter Doctrine, was written by Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Adviser. Serious stuffWe tried. Carter did not respond. We wonder how the Iran matter will play-out. Quote: ----- Original Message ----- From: bill payne To: laura.bowman@allstate.com Cc: barryrampy@allstate.com Sent: Nov 11, 2007 Subject: Payne Honda cr-v notes and pictures Laura Nick at apd records reported on friday nov 9 that the accident report still had not been turned in by officer alfred walck. Here are my notes and pictures. I'm going to Monterey, CA on Monday. I'll be back on Friday. On Friday afternoon I'll try to get the accident report. Here's one reason for going to monterey Quote: Ted G. Lewis is a professor of computer science at the Naval Postgraduate School and academic associate of the Center for Homeland Defense and Security master degree program. He has forty years experience in academic, industrial, and advisory capacities, ranging from academic appointments at the University of Missouri-Rolla, University of Louisiana, and Oregon State University, to Senior Vice President of Eastman Kodak Company, to CEO and President of DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology, North America. Dr. Lewis has published over thirty books and 100 research papers, and is the author of the forthcoming book Critical Infrastructure Protection in Homeland Security: Defending a Networked Nation, published by John Wiley & Sons, 2006. He received his Ph.D. in computer science from Washington State University. Lewis is one of my ms and phd students in computer science. Morales and I are going to write a book our our 15 year, so far, legal project. I need book advice from Lewis. Leelund will be in that book. bill Essential non-gas-wasting travel, of course! I plan to stop at Arizona Cholla coal-fired electric generation plant to take some pictures. I am curious on how they unload coal from trains. There may be several Sharin [Shirin] Neshats. Or maybe only one? Quote: Yes, she was in Venice Biennal. She is also a political activist, and has made few short movies. Her father Timsar Ali Neshat was the commander of the Imperial guard during the Shah regime and was executed by IRI. Quote: manam az in kara kheili mikonam,yani az in khanoom yadidam..na,, taghlididam!!
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Search for "nojeh" on number 2 website.
Welcome to our world.
Sharin [Shirin] appears to be having some fun.
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mos6507
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Post subject: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:54 pm |
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[web]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tPePpMxJaA[/web]
The video is interesting to watch, but even better is to look at the comments. The amount of anger being displayed. I think we're very well into the transition from denial into anger as was said earlier.
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:09 pm |
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White house had solar panels on? wow
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:11 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:24 pm |
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Jarzus Crist.
A 28 year, plain as day heads up.
_________________ Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:17 am |
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I remember that speech. The guy was ahead of his time. Maybe he wasn't the best president that we ever had, but he was dead nutz on about energy.
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:19 am |
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Thanks for that post mos6507
I was aware of Carter's position, but hadn't seen that address.
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:47 am |
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Pretorian wrote: White house had solar panels on? wow
Ya- I heard that Carter put them up and Reagan took them down.
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Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:54 am |
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Yes, I remember this speech well. It's too bad the Carter was such an ineffective president. Too thoughtful and indecisive; not given to action.
_________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
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