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rogerhb
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:11 pm |
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kam30en wrote: Our society (the idiot box) has made people believe that we are all equal, and just hearing that we aren't, can make some people flip out.
We have a huge range of abilities and it isn't as selective as you claim with your supposedly neat racial divisions.
_________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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threadbear
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:20 pm |
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kam30en wrote: Quote: Are these common views among your peers, Kam? Most of my friends aren't the type to engage in a conversation like this. And if I did, I am positive they wouldn't agree with me. Our society (the idiot box) has made people believe that we are all equal, and just hearing that we aren't, can make some people flip out....especially those at the bottom of the food chain. This is because they know it, they knew it all along, and just hearing it reinforces what they know, that they are naturally inferior, and nothing they can do can change this. There is nothing worse than feeling inferior.
And your Jewish peers, your extended family, immediate family? How do they see themselves and others?
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Polemic
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:58 pm |
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threadbear wrote: And your Jewish peers, your extended family, immediate family? How do they see themselves and others?
In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, David Duke quotes Dr. Richard Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish organisation in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a 2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:- 'I'll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years... I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language... and was taught the superiority of my people to the 'Gentiles' who oppressed us. 'We were taught to view non-Jews as... people less sensitive, intelligent and moral than ourselves.'
Still I agree with much of what kam30en has said with regard to racial differences and hierarchies, even if his comments weren't always properly nuanced or qualified.
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kam30en
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:40 pm |
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Quote: And your Jewish peers, your extended family, immediate family? How do they see themselves and others?
Believe it or not, most jews I know do not [publicly] subscribe to the jews are superior idea. They may hint at it when they start telling you about jewish inventors and chess champions, but it is a far cry from the kind of "we are the master race" marches Adolf and his boys were into. BTW, if Adolf hadn't decided to march through Europe, he might still have his Aryans only homeland right now.
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kam30en
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:50 pm |
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Quote: Kam, If you are so smart, why did you used to post that picture of yourself holding an AK with your finger on the trigger? Why that Vietnam picture now? What does it represent to that big white brain of yours?
The picture of me holding the AK was taken out of context. Some people were accusing me of being a barbarian or warmonger. On the contrary, I am not. I do however, believe that violent and unstable elements of our society should be purged. The man in the picture is killing a violent terrorist. Terrorists should not be negotiated with, they should be shot dead, their houses torched, their families punished. In this future PO nightmare we are headed into, the only way we are going to hold onto civilization is to get tough.....real tough, like the guy in this picture.
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TommyJefferson
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:58 pm |
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The Christian Evangelicals where I live are not happy about Carter's book. The book is aimed at them.
They justify all manner of violence and horror with the cleansing phrase "It's God's work".
I hate to wish ill upon anyone, but these Christians deserve a taste of the violence they preach.
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kam30en
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:01 pm |
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Quote: In my eyes Teller was less than a Ape Man buddy. Anyone who is inspired to create such a force that it can kill hundreds of thousands in an instant is probably not a human being, he is simply a human doing. I would prefer to spend the day at the Zoo with the gorillas and chimps...than an afternoon with a chump like E. Teller. Is he dead...good. Minds like his should be laid to rest.
Yah, it's great to sit around in your walled city and dream up mathematical equations....but you still have to deal with the barbarians at the gate. And if you don't have weapons.....your f*cked. Or perhaps you think you can negotiate with the barbarians? Why don't you just get in the pen with the gorilla and see what he does to you? Smart.....huh. People like you just don't understand the way the real world works, dog eat dog, no mercy, no second chances. There is no such thing as fair.
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threadbear
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:04 pm |
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kam30en wrote: Quote: And your Jewish peers, your extended family, immediate family? How do they see themselves and others? Believe it or not, most jews I know do not [publicly] subscribe to the jews are superior idea. They may hint at it when they start telling you about jewish inventors and chess champions, but it is a far cry from the kind of "we are the master race" marches Adolf and his boys were into. BTW, if Adolf hadn't decided to march through Europe, he might still have his Aryans only homeland right now.
That's comforting. In other words, they are proud of their heritage, which is the case for many ethnic groups, religious groups, etc... Why do you feel a need to take it a step further?
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rogerhb
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:22 pm |
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threadbear wrote: Why do you feel a need to take it a step further?
Expatriots are often more patriotic than those still at home, especially when they start having a "back in the old country..." type false memories.
The jews have a long history of being expatriots.
_________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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PenultimateManStanding
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:28 pm |
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rogerhb wrote: the jews have a long history of being expatriots. they also have a history of walking to school with a violin and having some mean black boys steal their lunch money.
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kam30en
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Quote: In other words, they are proud of their heritage, which is the case for many ethnic groups, religious groups, etc... Why do you feel a need to take it a step further?
We are not proud in the way some other ethnic groups are. Whereas Italians can put a flag of Italy on their car and get away with it, you will not find too many jews putting israeli flags on their cars. I do not go around anouncing I am jewish, because this in itself is seen as jewish supremacism by some. If someone asks if I am jewish, I will tell them, and if they ask what nationality I am, I will say jewish, but I don't rub it in their face. I compare this with being white in some places. Try wearing a "proud to be white" t-shirt in compton. Blacks hate whites for the same reason whites hate jews. It is all class warfare. If someone was higher on the class scale than jews, I'm sure some jews would hate them the same way whites hate jews.
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Polemic
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:02 pm |
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kam30en wrote: whites hate jews.
I think people hate and resent being deceived, manipulated, used, swindled, etc.
So if a preponderance of the people at the top of the class pyramid who are guilty of these things are Jewish (who are in America but 2% of the population), this fact shouldn't go unnoticed. Recognizing the fact is not hatred for all Jews, and it's certainly not envy disguised as class warfare.
I personally have a combination of scorn and admiration for the Jewish people, taken as a whole.
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rogerhb
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:10 pm |
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kam30en wrote: if they ask what nationality I am, I will say jewish
In modern parlance, "jewish" is not a nationality. Being an Israeli is, however.
_________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Polemic
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Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter being criticzed for his new book Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:12 pm |
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