better yet would be taking away citizenship of your citizen-parent instead.

Its almost that way today, I beleave I read some where that 15 million illegals are here now, and isn't there economy having a crash now, so many millions unemployed if you also count the ones now in US it could be close to 70 million unemployed and growing daily in Mexico.

[ has anyone driven by a Home Depot or landscape supply store lately ]

In case you don't check the border patrol weekly blotter (located here: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_secur ... y_blotter/) here are this week's highlights:

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Sells, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for attempted sex abuse in the State of Oregon, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Douglas, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for rape by force in the State of California, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Peru near Douglas, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for rape in the State of Idaho, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Sierra Vista, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for sexual assault and burglary in the State of Colorado, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Tucson, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for sex with a minor in the State of California, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

El Centro Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Indio, California. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for child molestation in the State of California, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Douglas, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for rape in the State of Washington, and had also been previously removed from the United States.

Problems with Mexican dept reflected in Bond ratings

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... k1LsTWSly0

Investors are unloading Mexican bonds as the opposition- controlled congress challenges Calderon’s plan to increase taxes and narrow a budget gap that RBS Securities Inc. says will grow to the widest in two decades on tumbling oil revenue. The legislative fight compounds concerns after the economy was the hardest hit in Latin America by the global recession that started in the U.S., the buyer of 80 percent of Mexican exports.

“Mexico is more vulnerable than the rest,” said Jonathan Binder, who manages $350 million of emerging-market debt at Consilium Investment Management in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and sold his Mexican holdings in the past three months on concern the ratings will be cut. “I expect more underperformance

along the same lines as previous post with an explicit reference to falling oil revenues

http://www.forexyard.com/en/reuters_inn ... G-ANALYSIS

MEXICO CITY, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Mexico is running a high risk of getting a downgrade on its debt rating after lawmakers watered down President Felipe Calderon's proposal to raise taxes and reduce a reliance on falling oil output.

Many investors, banks and economists think Wall Street rating agencies will not be impressed by a plan approved by Mexico's Senate that would make public coffers depend more on high oil prices than Calderon had proposed.

Senators approved lifting the value-added tax, or VAT, to 16 percent, raising the income tax for high earners to 30 percent and putting a 3 percent tax on some telecoms services. But Congress threw out Calderon's initial idea of a sweeping 2 percent sales tax that would hit currently exempt food and medicines and be designated for anti-poverty programs.

"I don't think it's enough. They are going to get the downgrade," said Rogelio Gallegos, a fund manager at Actinver-Lloyd in Mexico City.

Battered by a recession that has slammed tax collection and a steady plunge in crude oil output, Mexico has been seen by investors all year as more likely to default on its debt than is Brazil despite Mexico's higher debt rating, according to data on credit default swaps.

And of course more drug killings

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=109475

Maybe I'm just a weak wristed pacifist but that looks like a whole lot of serious killing stuff laid out in that press pic.

I thought the Mexicans had gun abolition i.e. control.

I caught this on the related article list from your post:

Gun battle at border crossing

Violence spilling over the border. What struck me was the total disregard for US border control forces.

A couple of 50 cals would put a stop to that crap. An armed invasion is an armed invasion.

Another week on the border...

El Centro Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Calexico, California. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for an attempt to commit sexual abuse in the State of Oregon, and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Naco, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for a sexual offense in the State of Washington, and had been previously removed from the United States.

El Paso Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Las Cruces, New Mexico. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for sexual contact without consent in the State of Colorado. He had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Guatemala near Tombstone, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for statutory rape, and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from El Salvador near Douglas, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had an active warrant of arrest for aggravated sexual battery of a victim less than 13 years old in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

El Centro Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Calexico, California. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for sex with a minor in the State of California, and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Honduras near Nogales, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had been charged with sexual contact and indecency with a child, aggravated sexual assault of a child, and was a registered sex offender in the State of Texas. He had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Sonoita, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had prior convictions for rape and kidnapping in the State of California, and had been previously removed from the United States.

El Paso Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Fabens, Texas. Records checks revealed the subject was a registered sex offender in the State of Minnesota, and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Casa Grande, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for sexual battery in the State of California and had an arrest warrant for failure to appear. He had also been previously removed from the United States.

Anyone out there know a good online source of Mexican news in English?

I poked around the other day and nothing credible jumted out at me.

I wonder if they'd have that level of total disregard if combat-hardened soldiers in Humvees from Iraq were at the border crossings.

I guess the other question would be that given that the majority LEGAL immigrants now living here show favor towards continued immigration, would Specialists Alvarez and Rodriguez open fire on people crossing the Rio Grande knowing their cousins might be among them (literally)? Or more importantly would they turn their guns on fellow soldiers who DID open fire? (consider Hasan at Ft Hood's divided loyalties) The Christians have a saying, "No man can serve two masters".

Probably the same problem the Roman empire faced when Legionaire Gunther refused to fire his arrows at the Goths crossing into Roman territory (at a time when Roman military was less and less from Italy AND smaller in size-sort of like OUR transition from Divisions to Brigades)

I heard an interview by a Mexican journalist tonight. It was chilling. She was getting an award for her work from some international human rights organization. She said that it would raise her profile and hopefully she would remain alive. Journalists are apparently killed with impunity in Mexico. No investigation, no news coverage.

The BBC had a story on Juarez sinking into anarchy, killing children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8364049.stm

"The drug problem is just a consequence of the decay of rule of law in this country," says one businessman with joint Mexican-American citizenship. He too prefers to remain anonymous.

Sticking your head above the parapet in this city is not something people do readily. Kidnapping and extortion, along with the murders, occur often.

"Nothing functions well, therefore anyone can take advantage of the system. So what we're seeing now is a [illegal] drug industry that's taking advantage of the system - of the way things work.

"And to get rid of it like the federal government is trying to do now is going to cause a lot of problems. So this violence is a consequence of all this."

Somolia- here we come

I've seen very similar train of thought elsewhere, this might be actually the scenario, which would kick up the speed of desintegration processes within the U.S. For confirmation let's wait for the day Cantarell goes finally belly up in few years time and they will have to at least attempt to seal the border Berlin wall style..

There is also the possibility Mexico turning into full blown narco state,
so this would mean higher drug export capability (hence lower street prices = epidemics of drug abuse) and also possible direct confrontation with other regional powers, i.e. very nice excuse to replay some of the 19th century US-Mexico violent scenarios. You bet there is bambillion of rednecks enlisting already..