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StayOnTarget · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:40 am

Pentagon Video Discussion Thread
At the very least, its got great production value. I've seen many of the questions raised here elsewhere. Would love to hear what everyone here thinks.

StayOnTarget · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:42 am

BTW, just got my copy of Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert. Am reading in earnest.

Barbara · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:44 am

Please let me know about it, Stayontarget.
I have to order it from abroad so I need to know if it's veeery good!

clv101 · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:09 am

It's on my wishlist with Amazon at the moment... waiting for some reviews before I decide to buy it. Let us know!

Aaron · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:15 am

http://peakoil.com/reviews.html

budeone · **Posted:** Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:58 pm

StayOnTarget sometimes you have to be carefull what you ask for....
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PhilBiker · **Joined:** Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:00 am **Posts:** 1276

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NevadaGhosts · **Joined:** Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:00 am **Posts:** 729

I saw an ad in the New York times newspaper yesterday. The full-page ad was for a book called Painful Questions by Eric Hufscmid (order# 1-800-442-3450). I don't own the book yet, but I may purchase it. Anyways, in the ad, it showed many facts regarding Spetember 11th. Here is a quick overview of some facts in the book:

Quote:

"No steel building has ever been destroyed by fire." Fire Engineer Magazine

The South Tower fell only after 1 hour. The North Tower fell on hour later. After the initial fireball, neither building burned significantly. The Meridian One Building in Philadelphia burned fiercly for 19 hours and never collapsed.

Building 7 at WTC, steel and constructed differently from the Twin Towers, fell at 5:30. It was not hit by an airplane and had no apparent significant fire.

Days later, there were still 'hot spots' in the building that exceeded the maximum temperature possible from burning jet fuel, but just the right temperature if explosives had been used.

Jet fuel burns at too low a temperature to harm steel. (the black smoke indicates that the jet fuel was not even buring at maximum temperature.) And the fires did not burn long enough to harm steel.

The concrete clouds shooting out of buildings are not possible from a mere collapse. The do occur from demolitions or explosions.

F-16 fighters are supposed to form an umbrella over Washington in an emergency. The Pentagon was attacked over one hour after the second aircraft hit the WTC. Why were no fighters scrambled?

The impact of the airplanes and the resulting fires were way of center, More than 2 sides of th etowers and the main center collumns were untouched. Why did all 3 buildings collapse?

"The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time." FEMA

I am now totally convinced that the US government planned and helped carry out the atttacks on the WTC buildings and the Pentagon (with help of terrorists).

I am considering purchasing this book myself. Looks like it has some good facts. (I am not trying to sell this book!) Has anyone here read this book?

jato · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:48 pm

Here we go again! :roll:

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:51 pm

truekaiser · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:25 pm

even if they didn't directly help i still think they purposly ignored the signs because it would of been(and has been) helpfull in there plans. especaily those people from the new american century who are in the current administration.

i also recomend you find a download a documentery called '911 in plane sight'

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:32 pm

I still think Ruppert's "Truth and Lies About 9/11" is the best. Far better than "In Plane Sight." Havne't read Ruppert's book, but sure its probably pretty decent.

Yeah, the evidence is overwhemling.

And if you don't think our government is capable of planning such a horrible act, just google "Operation Northwoods." I think Savinar gives it an overview in his book, which is still free over at http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

Tyler_JC · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:49 pm

If I were the president, this is how I would plan a "terrorist attack" on my own people.

1st I would plan it 3 weeks before my re-election.

2nd I would claim that X country did it and immediately invade X country. That way, people believe I'm doing the right thing.

3rd I would make sure that X country had lots of nice resources to take. (oil)

4th I would scramble jets and make it look like I was trying to protect the country.

5th I would immediately declare that the entire Middle East was full of terrorists that must be killed.

6th I would invade the entire Middle East and kill all of those terrorists.

The USA did not do a single one of these things. The War on Terror is a war that has to be fought eventually. What Peak Oil means to the government is another reason to continue this War. The War is a distraction from the horrors that will come soon. Also, we have been cherry picking the countries we fight in order to maximize the oil we could at some time "recover".

If the War on Terror was the War for Oil, we would have soldiers in Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. More Americans could see SA has a threat. Why did we pick a country with such a junky oil production system when Saudi Arabia is an easier threat (politically) and has a lot more oil?

Based on what I know about global politics, I refuse to believe that Bush is capable of killing 2900 of his own people and then f*cking up the after events so badly. If this whole thing was planned, wouldnâ€™t he have bribed the 9/11 panel to claim that Iraq was responsible?

No one can be crazy enough to believe that Bush planned 9/11. I like conspiracy theories, but that takes the proverbial cake.

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:50 pm

Quote:

Based on what I know about global politics, I refuse to believe that Bush is capable of killing 2900 of his own people and then f*cking up the after events so badly.

Bush was capable of sending over 1,000 US sodiers to their deaths in Iraq.

savethehumans · **Joined:** Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:00 am **Posts:** 1514

I'M crazy enough to believe--and several others on these boards are probably just as nuts!

Mike Ruppert's BOOK about 9-11 and the failing American Empire, "Crossing the Rubicon," is now published. You can order it on Mike's website: www.fromthewilderness.com. You can also order it from Amazon.com, but it is uncertain when the second printing copies will be available. (That's right, folks! The 1st printing has done SOLD OUT.) It's a big book (600+ pages), but you won't notice once you start reading. If you WANT to stay ignorant of the truth until a) the world economy, and thus, modern civilization, starts to crumble--probably based on either the oil peak, or the collapse of the dollar, or both; or b) they come to get you (and, oh, yes, they could), then DON'T buy or read this book.

The rest of you--peak oil, 9-11, the economy, drugs, biological warfare, the Patriot Act--it's all in here. And it is worth your investment in time and money!

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