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Magnetic Motors – Another Source of Energy?

Alternative Energy

For many years now inventors around the world have been claiming they have developed “over unity” electric motors or motor/generator pairs that either run on magnetism alone or consist of a “self-looped” motor/generator pair that can produce electrical energy beyond that needed to run the generator’s electric motor. People who follow these issues say that there are now some 50 such claims from people who say they have built such a motor, but so far none have been verified, thoroughly tested, or reached commercial markets.

YouTube has numerous videos purportedly showing some of these motors in action. A few of these demonstrations have taken place and the devices disassembled for inspection under the auspices of prestigious universities. This suggests that if some sort of scam is taking place it is certainly not obvious. Needless to say there are many who say an over unity motor is perpetual motion and can’t exist under the laws of physics. Supporters of the technology say that science does not yet fully understand magnetic force is and where it comes from, despite its ubiquitous use in our civilization.

There are two ways in which claims concerning a radically new technology can be verified. Either it can be submitted for independent testing by competent authorities as has been done with Rossi’s Low Energy Nuclear Reactors, Rosch’s Kinetic Thrust electric generators, and partially by BlackLight Power with its hydrinos, or one can put the device on the commercial market and see if it lives up to the claims. This is the Wright brothers approach, which quickly eliminated skepticism about whether “heavier than air” flight was possible. While there are obviously concerns about intellectual property rights especially where a technology could be of great value, so far as is known publicly nobody has ever submitted an over unity device to authoritative outside scrutiny or offered one for sale. This is curious for a technology that has been around for many years.

One common thread that seems to run through the genre is the use of very powerful neodymium magnets that were only invented 25 years ago and can be configured to generate more than “normal” amounts of electricity. For example, they are used in wind generators and many modern electronic devices.

For now, there seems little reason to lump the various “over unity” devices together with other “exotic” means of producing energy as the evidence that they actually work is far weaker than in the case of other technologies. However, the reason they are being talked about here is an effort to keep an open mind and to reinforce the notion that mankind does not yet know all there is to know about the laws of nature. Much remains to be discovered and there are almost certainly many useful technologies out there waiting to be discovered.

The most recent claim to have a device, which some would say violates the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and therefore cannot possibly work, comes from France where an engineer says he is building a prototype of a “magnetic motor.” This device is called the LMW9, runs on alternating magnetic forces, uses no fuel, and obviously makes no pollution. A general description of the device says it is a cylinder 2 meters long. Inside magnets arranged in a half moon toggle between attraction and repulsion causing the cylinder to rotate. If there is rotation and enough torque, its developers say it can run an electric generator.

Like many such claims this one could easily be ignored except for a report that Elon Musk of Tesla Motors fame is reported to have sent a vice president to Aubagne, France to have a look at it. While most of us are highly skeptical, some in France are more optimistic that there may be something to the technology. The inventor, Luc Besancon, is linked up with a private research organization called the International Institute for Support of Innovative Scientific Research that is helping him raise money to complete his prototype.

Besancon hopes to have the first prototype which will generate 8 kilowatts completed by the end of next year. France’s state-owned utility, EdF, which operates 58 nuclear power plants, is aware of the development and seems to be in line with many other European firms waiting to test the prototype — if it actually emerges. Needless to say utilities such as EdF have mixed emotions about a “magnetic motor,” cold fusion, or any other technology that would compete with their existing generating stations and are waiting for rock solid proof that it works before commenting.
If it turns out that the 2025 Tesla automobile doesn’t have any batteries, this could be the reason why.

For those of you not familiar with what a QMoGen is, that is a name I coined for a self-looped motor-generator system in which a smaller motor powers a larger generator, which loops back to keep the motor turning, while producing excess energy for practical use. (The shape of the letter Q conveys “self-looped with excess energy left over.”) We’ve encountered more than 50 of these claims from around the world in the past three years, but I’ve not yet had the privilege of seeing one for myself. I’d love to.

FCNP



13 Comments on "Magnetic Motors – Another Source of Energy?"

  1. augjohnson on Wed, 30th Sep 2015 7:45 pm 

    Oh, Jeeze…

  2. apneaman on Wed, 30th Sep 2015 7:57 pm 

    Ghost dancing

  3. Kevin Cobley on Wed, 30th Sep 2015 9:04 pm 

    It’s very clear that if energy comes from nowhere it’s a scam. Why are publishers wasting print space on nonsenses.
    Sick of power schemes from alleged undeveloped “Popular Mechanics” style schemes that may have some underlying theoretical basis but are never going to materialise into use, like Nuclear Fusion (none of Musk’s money is going to get it going), Thorium Reactors and space panels.

  4. makati1 on Wed, 30th Sep 2015 9:09 pm 

    Perpetual Motion machine? Gee Wiz!

  5. Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 12:40 am 

    Tom Whipple is a fucking idiot

  6. canabuck on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 4:58 am 

    Whoever is posting this article is an idiot.

  7. Ralph on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 7:23 am 

    Tom Whipple is a good analyst which makes this sort of rubbish very hard to explain.

    There is clearly a very large hole in his scientific education.

  8. KingM on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 12:33 pm 

    This is an embarrassing article to post. Perpetual motion? Really???

  9. diemos on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 1:19 pm 

    Carl? Is that you?

  10. peakyeast on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 3:00 pm 

    For all practical purposes it is possible to tap energy forever from the universe around us. Just hanging a pendulum from far up will make it swing from the earths and moons movement. This contruction could be made to deliver energy for 1000s of years with no inputs from humans.

    Or for that matter a large enough antenna to catch RF..

    Its difficult to tap in this energy large quantities, but it can be tapped for an amount of time that for our own sake is eternal – and it doesnt violate any physcial laws.

    That being saíd: Most of what you see out there is fraudulent. Especially those who claim to get something from nothing.

  11. Bob Owens on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 3:02 pm 

    Please, stop! My brain is exploding! I have to leave PO immediately!

  12. Go Speed Racer on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 5:57 pm 

    Used to be, every young boy at about eleven years old, would think of this motor generator idea. Now they are all on cell phones and meth, so they don’t think of it anymore.

  13. ghung on Thu, 1st Oct 2015 6:32 pm 

    Speed, I built one when I was 10 and entered it in the science fair at school. It was working great until a couple of suits showed up and loaded it in a black van; said they’d be in touch. Still waiting to hear back.

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